Marc,
It sometimes takes organizations awhile to respond, particularly if they are responding to you as a consticuency leader not a registrant.

I think it is better to assume good faith as an initial matter. Once a dialog commences, the lag time for response is certainly something to bring up.

PIR has generally tried to be a good actor in the space, as far as I can tell. There are several very reliable public interest advocates involved on its board and its advisory board, as well as an official designated representative from the consticuency to the advisory board. Rather than transfer anger from VRSN to PIR, I think we should give them a little longer to reply.

Harold

Marc Schneiders wrote:

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, at 23:18 [=GMT+0900], Adam Peake wrote:

Great.

Except, did you get a reply from PIR about why they are planning to
delete the IDNs?


I did ask PIR in an email. I received no reply. This is days back.
Tucows was also going to ask PIR and get back to us. Nothing. This is
exactly how PIR handled the first stage, when they stopped the working
DNS of IDN org's: Try to let the story die a natural death. And evade
questions by referring to privacy of customers and other excuses.

Do they work (published in the zone file?  dates
for this?), do the follow new IETF standards, do they work without
plugins, etc, as the new IDNs do (will do?).


ORG IDNs stopped working without any notice in March 2003.

Unless you're very sure you're right, PIR are wrong, I think it may
be unnecessary to include a specific reference to an incident like
this in a policy recommendation.  Complain to PIR by all means, but I
do not think this is appropriate place for it, and it does not
reflect discussion in the thread "PIR and stability and consumer
protection?"


Well, complaining to PIR does not help. I've tried that in the past.
See discussions on this list and others. (Google: Marc Schneiders
PIR.)

(I am on the PIR advisory council so perhaps I'm "conflicted". Yes, I
have asked about this matter --before seeing the draft statement
you've just sent-- and hope for a reply in a few days.)


I do not understand why this should take a few days. I do know that
all answers I got from PIR in the past were evasive.

I am amazed that you as a member of the adv. council do not already
know about this deletion. Did they not ask your opinion?

And if it is not true, I would be even more amazed that there is no
reply.