Dear all, I think that it is difficult to react now because ICANN did not agree on this and also we did not say anything to stop it as NCC. ? If you think that we can use official procedure for this kind of situation let us use it. If not I'm not seeing how we can stop this because it was not authorized. Best regards. Thierry H. Amoussougbo Regional Adviser Development Information Services Division United Nations Economic Commission for Africa Tel: 251 1 511167 ext 33053 Fax: 251 1 510512 E-mail : [log in to unmask] Marc Schneiders <[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] > cc: Sent by: Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] PIR and stability and consumer Non-Commercial User protection? Constituency <NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSE RV.SYR.EDU> 08/01/2004 05:03 PM Please respond to Marc Schneiders Perhaps more than a footnote to the present discussion of "Approval process for gtld service changes": PIR is going to delete all multilingual domains (also called IDN) on February 2004. I learned about this through the newsletter of a German registrar (quote below). I have protested earlier about the silent end to resolution (working DNS) of these domains in March 2003. PIR was not very responsive, to put it mildly. Now again there will be a secret change to these domains. They will quietly disappear. I see no message about it on the PIR website. I am of the opinion that this is unacceptable in several respects: 1. Registrants are not notified. I have such a domain and I heard nothing. 2. It is done in a most intransparent, even secret manner. 3. It is related to the redelegation of a TLD. Will the same thing happen in 2005 with .NET? 4. Multilingual domains were a private initiative of Verisign, not approved by ICANN, but neither did ICANN tell Verisign not to do it. In this context it is most relevant for the "approval process" topic. 5. PIR kills .ORG multilinguals for technical reasons, it says (well the German text below does). At the same time Afilias (which runs .ORG technically) is introducing multilingual .INFO domains. Can anyone explain this to me, please? From newsletter of dd24.net: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PIR wird multilinguale .ORG Domains nun doch löschen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nach einer anders lautenden Meldung im November hat uns das kürzlich ernannte Zentralregister für .ORG Domains, Public Interest Registry (PIR), jetzt darüber informiert, dass die Registrierungen der nach dem ehemaligen "RACE-Verfahren" eingetragenen multilingualen .ORG Domains (also Domains mit Umlauten bzw. Sonderzeichen) doch nicht länger kostenlos verlängert werden. Stattdessen hat sich PIR für eine Löschung aller multilingualen .ORG Domains zum 1. Februar 2004 entschieden. Gründe für diese Entscheidung sind insbesondere die technischen Schwierigkeiten und Unsicherheiten der zukünftigen Umwandlung der bereits registrierten Domains in das neue "Punycode-Verfahren". Nun muss zunächst einmal geklärt werden, auf welche Weise eine Neueinführung multilingualer .ORG Domains gemäß des allgemeinen Standarts zukünftig überhaupt durchgeführt werden soll. Wir sind gespannt... Quelle: PIR