Kathy: You make some convincing point. I propose to modify the paragraph about "purpose" in the following way, which I am sure you will like: "First, NCUC thinks it imperative that ICANN recognize the well-established data protection principle that the purpose of data and data collection processes must be well-defined before policies regarding its use and access can be established. The purpose of Whois originally was identification of domain owners for purposes of solving technical problems. The purpose was _not_ to provide law enforcement or other self-policing interests with a means of circumventing normal due process requirements for access to contact information. None of the current Whois Task Forces are mandated to revise the purpose. Therefore, the original purpose must be assumed until and unless ICANN initiates a new policy development process to change it." I propose that this paragraph should be appended to ALL NCUC submissions regarding the 3 whois task forces. We must speak with a completely unified voice on this matter, and we must pound away at it constantly. I will propose some additional modifications but let's get this critical one agreed on first. >>> <[log in to unmask]> 03/16/04 05:54AM >>> 2) Task Force 2 is *unlikely to examine primary purpose* of the WHOIS database. Unfortunately, it was not until George Papapavlou's speech in Rome to NCUC and Registrars that we heard this call so loud and so immediate. The questionnaires of TF2 (4 in all) are not designed to solicit input on primary purpose. They are designed to look at 1) uses (all forms of secondary uses), 2) concerns (for the first time, we get to write our concerns for the misuse and abuse of the data), and 3) privacy laws (are their national/regional laws that protect WHOIS-type data).