First a rant: I am fed up with updates under the windows (tm) operating system. This trademarked operating system (which often doesn't operate) takes too much of my time recently. And it hangs all the time. Worms, virusses, I don't know what. I run a windows (tm) machine BEHIND A FIREWALL. I do not use Outlook (tm) etc. I have no idea what is ruining my life. I am guessing it is (tm). FreeBSD (no tm or license or whatever, better than Stallman GPL) runs with no problems for over 400 days without reboot. Go figure. As for whois: We need a really bright idea. What I see now, is that we will be wrapped up by the IP people and their assistents. We might get some tiny victory (like no phone number) but this does not solve the basic problems. Idea: Put only an email address in whois. If no reply is received to an email to this address, those who have a legitimate reason to contact the registrant, will receive postal address. Details to be determined. Like how long no reply to the email. How to make sure this is the case, etc. This would make life easy for those who want to remain private. As long as you make sure you reply to someone who wants to contact you, you are OK. The system would run over registrars (so as to make sure that there are no misunderstandings: this way: Disney sends email to address via registrar. Registrar notifies me. I have option to acknowledge receipt. If I do, registrar will not disclose my postal address. If I don't, it will. This can all be automated.) What do you think? It needs more thinking and detailed rules etc. On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, at 10:18 [=GMT-0400], [log in to unmask] wrote: > To Marc and All: > Some of us are now in the Chat Room to discuss WHOIS and Task Force Reports. > Please join us :-)! > > *NOTE* There seems to have been an update to the java software since the > last time we met in this chat room. In his message, Iliya provides the links and > directions to download the newest version of JSE (1.4, I think). After I did > that, I was able to see the applets and enter the chat room... kathy > > > > > > > > I see a grey square only. No way to login. > > > > Marc > > > >