I support Milton's position, though I appreciate a little less the bluntness :-) Then, if we are going to praise people on a public list, why not damn them as well. I think WSIS does not need nominees from us, that merely do what other reps in WSIS already do: defend country positions, for example. On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, at 14:35 [=GMT-0400], Milton Mueller wrote: > Adam, > I appreciate your willingness to bluntly express > opinions about nominees. > > But I don't agree with your assessment of Karl at all. > I know that you have much more moderate and > protective views about ICANN than Karl (and I), > but if you disagree with his policy positions you > need to make that clear, not malign his personality > and spread provably wrong statements about his > participation. > > I think Karl has gotten a bad rap because the > early ICANN self-selected Board deliberately > tried to isolate and marginalize him. The Board > did some really nasty things, like instantly modifying > the bylaws so that he and other the elected members > could not participate in the new TLD selection, or > forming an Executive Committee composed of a small > minority of cronies which made all the real decisions, and > then railroading those decisions . To resist this, Karl > ended up looking like a marginalized, protest > Board member - which he was. But the point is that > the ICANN Board at that time badly NEEDED a > vocal protest member. > > Regarding communication, Karl appeared in as many if > not more NCUC meetings than any other Board member - > but it would be hard for you to know that, Adam, > because you almost never attend NCUC meetings. > I think the last NCUC meeting you attended was > in Yokohama 2000, which preceded Karl's installment > as a Board member. While you are a valued participant > on our list, I sincerely believe that Karl has > appeared in more NCUC/NCDNHC meetings than > you. > > Regarding list communication, I think if you > check the NCDNHC archives from the period when > our list was open, you will find active participation > from Feb.-April 2002. It is true that he showed more > interest in At Large than NCDNHC most of the time. > But: 1) he was elected by the At Large, and 2) > the nomination is for a civil society representative, > not an NCUC representative per se. > > If you can, try to put forward a technically-oriented > person from NorthAmerica who is more accountable and > more wise to the ways of Internet governance politics than > Karl. > > --MM >