Thanks for your upbeat message, Frannie. FYI, Michael Froomkin said he could not do it. I also have not heard any confirmation from Pam Samuelson, I guess we should remove her name. I did hear from Meryem and Susan Crawford, and both are ok with being nominated. Oddly, we have not heard anything from Chun, who is on this list. Eung Hwi???? --MM >>> Frannie Wellings <[log in to unmask]> 8/25/2004 5:37:25 PM >>> Hello everyone - Well, I've been out of town at a conference and am now trying to catch up on all of this mail. It was a conference on community wireless networks and ironically, the wireless security at the university was so tight I had trouble accessing the network. :) That's just the way it works, I guess. It's happened at every internet/tech conference I've been to, including ICANN meetings, of course. Harold Feld was also there, which is why you haven't heard from him yet. Here's what I believe is the current list of suggested names according to regions (I've moved Meryem to Europe) - Region: Africa Technical: Adiel Akplogan Policy: and Mr. Olivier Nana Nzepa Asia-Pacific Technical: Paul Wilson and Pindar Wong Policy: Eung Hwi Chun Europe Technical: Vittorio Bertola Policy: Marco Cappato, Karen Banks and Meryem Merzouki Latin America Technical: Raul Echeberria and Florencio Utreras Policy: Oscar Robles (LACTLD), Carlos Afonso (RITS) and Erick Iriarte North America Technical: Karl Auerbach Policy: Pamela Samuelson, Susan Crawford, William Drake Arab : Technical:___ Policy:___ First let me say that I agree with both Karen and Milton regarding regional representation... that we are obviously reaching at times to find names in certain regions. We are also omitting some of the competent names from the "usual" regions in the process. And at the same time, it's at least a good exercise to push ourselves and our list members from those regions to do so, to try and come up with nominees from areas most of us are less familiar with, etc. If we don't end up with any names from the Arab region simply because we haven't been introduced to them or their work before, then we'll have to deal with that. We obviously shouldn't nominate someone we know little about just because of their region, but for some regions it might be helpful to think in this manner. I also agree with Robin about not being too rigid in our final submissions according to policy and technical expertise, but again it is a good exercise to try and put ourselves out of the policy world and think about those wise techies. Next, I absolutely, wholeheartedly support the inclusion of Karl Auerbach on this list. I don't want to raise from the depths (if it's managed to sink at all yet) the past week's conversation, but I really think he would be ideal. He did a wonderful job, from my perspective, at the UN ICT Task Force... he's got the experience and expertise, he's not beholden to anyone, he's very honest and he was indeed diplomatic in his statements at the UN. I always appreciate his input and I very much hope he will be a member of the WGIG. I very much support Olivier Nana Nzepa - I was also going to suggest him, but Thierry has beaten me to it. I think Anriette Esterhuysen from South Africa should be on the list as well. I realize that this will make it two APC people on the list, but I think both Karen and Anriette would do a fantastic job at representing positions we'd like expressed there, they bring a great deal of diverse experience and they're quite key to their regions. I know we aren't deciding on region specifically, but this should say something about their work. I will also 'officially' put Vittorio Bertola on the list since he sort of placed himself there. We've worked together on WHOIS Task Force 3 and at the UN ICT TF forum in NY - I thought he was great - he made excellent points at just the right times. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I would say I strongly support him. :) I very much support Carlos on this list :) and might also suggest the possibilities of Francisco Lopez-Bermudez for the Latin American region and Peter Neumann from the North America region. I'd like Michael Froomkin as well, but with a teaching position, I don't think he'll have the time. I can send more info about them tomorrow. I think Marco Cappato is an excellent choice - he's great on privacy and Intellectual Property policy. I think he'd be a good representative of our positions, and it's super that he's a good guy from the government world. Susan Crawford would also be great and I agree Meryem would as well, but as was previously discussed, she should be placed in the European region if we're characterizing this way. Anyway, I'm really pleased to see effort the NCUC is making to contribute to this important process. I was on the Executive committee meeting chat (stole the gavel from Iliya and everything!!) and am pleased that we have this process for suggesting nominations to the WG. Even if none of our suggestions are accepted, it's productive and a very good use of this group. I'm personally really pleased by civil society IG work in the past few weeks... both in this NCUC process and the statements being worked on in the IG Caucus (I'm also on that list). Using both mechanisms, civil society is making a meaningful contribution to the Internet Governance debate and policy process and I hope that the productivity continues. Best to all, Frannie -- ~~~ Frannie Wellings Policy Fellow, Electronic Privacy Information Center ~ http://www.epic.org Director, The Public Voice ~ http://www.thepublicvoice.org 1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200 Washington, D.C. 20009 USA [log in to unmask] +1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone) +1 202 483 1248 (fax) ~~~