This very useful analysis is what we need more of. Thanks. --MM >>> "Dr. Francis MUGUET" <[log in to unmask]> 11/4/2004 3:32:41 AM >>> I don't know if there a free software alternative with similar features as Elluminate or Marratech available on a wide variety of platforms ? There is IVS http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/ivs.html but it does not work on Windows machines... it seems that there are other projects I did not have to explore. If you know some other alternatives, please post it. It is obvious that Elluminate is not "illuminated" enough to be as friendly to GNU/Linux users as Marratech ( http://www.marratech.com/ ) that was used in a previous trial by Dr. Derrick Cogburn. You need to have installed the Java Runtine Env JRE check in your distro ( much prefered ) or download it http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp check if the the variable JAVA_HOME is defined echo $JAVA_HOME The download page for JavaWebStart is http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/download.jsp I installed it and it works apparently at http://www.elluminate.com/support I was able to log and test. The download time is quite important. I tested the audio but not yet the microphone. First, misguided by the info on Elluminate page, I tried to install OpenJNLP http://openjnlp.nanode.org/download.html The install is more for nerds. It crashed on Fedora Core 2 It was possible to launch OpenJNLP on Mandrake 9.2, but I did not test it with my browser yet, may be later. ( must change the mailcap ) Best regards Francis > Enrique , Hi. > > I asked Elluminate support, their reply is copied below. I don't have a > way to personally check if it works, but I hear that it does. I hope > Linux users get the same level of functionality as other platforms. > > Derrick's been trying to give us some tools to work with for a while, we > were critical about his first suggestion (Windows only... it worked fine > for Windows and his team had put a lot of effort into the thing) so it's > good he's found something that hopefully works for most platforms. > Appreciate Derrick's perseverance in trying to give us these tools. > > Adam > > >> Delivered-To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: RE: using elluminate with linux/*BSD? >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:25:05 -0700 >> Thread-Topic: using elluminate with linux/*BSD? >> Thread-Index: AcTBtHPv/SsdCeqYQXGkHtkXfrkW9gAFQIQw >> From: "Support" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: "Adam Peake" <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Hello Adam, >> >> Elluminate does not specifically support Linux installations of the >> client software. However, it should be possible for Linux users to >> access a session providing Java Web Start by Sun Microsystems can be >> installed. >> >> The installer for Java Web Start on Linux is available at the following >> Web page. Follow Sun's directions for installation. >> >> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp >> >> Once Java Web Start is installed, you should be able to launch an >> Elluminate Live! session by clicking on a link to a session, such as the >> one provided below to our configuration session. Clicking on a link >> downloads a small JNLP file to you, so your Linux Web browser would have >> to be configured to launch Java Web Start (javaws) in response to >> receiving one of these files. >> >> https://www.elluminate.com/mtg.jnlp?password=686042519 >> >> I hope this helps. Let me know if I clarify any of the information I >> have provided to you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Steve Perkins, B.Sc. >> Eluminate Services >> p 403.204.7896.42 >> e [log in to unmask] >> www.elluminate.com/support >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adam Peake [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: November 3, 2004 7:49 AM >> To: Support >> Subject: using elluminate with linux/*BSD? >> >> Can people using Linux or *BSD access Elluminate interactive >> conferences? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Adam > > > > > > At 5:45 PM +0000 11/3/04, Enrique A. Chaparro wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 01:39:17 +0900 >> Adam Peake <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> AP> Enrique, what message do you get when you go to this page >> AP> <http://www.elluminate.com/support/>? >> AP> >> AP> Using OS X, I see: >> AP> >> AP> "You appear to have the required software to use Elluminate Live!" >> AP> >> AP> What happens when you try with Linux (*BSD)? >> >> Adam, >> >> When going to http://www.elluminate.com/support/ the following message >> appears: >> ``You don't appear to have the required software to use Elluminate >> Live!'' >> >> When clicking the ``Download and install the required software'' >> button, I get a download screen in >> http://www.elluminate.com/support/supportsoftwaredownload.jsp ; >> ``Step 1 -- Get the required software'' has a dropdown menu >> ``Select your operating system:'' The only options available are: >> ``Windows 95, 98, 2000, NT, XP'' or ``Macintosh OS 9.0 - OS 9.2''. >> Cul de sac. >> >> AP> Does it only work with Java Desktop System? (Is JDS a problem?) >> >> I don't know. The JNLP protocol is supported in Linux through >> OpenJNLP, but this does not guarantee that the Elluminate's client >> (which one, btw?) would work. >> >> Elluminate's documentation clearly states that the clients run in >> Windows, Mac OS and Solaris (please see `Minimum system requirements' >> in: http://www.elluminate.com/sales/datasheets/EnterpriseEdition.pdf >> >> Regards from the Far South, >> >> Enrique >> >> -- >> ``Izena duen guzia omen da.'' >> > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [log in to unmask] > https://ssl.cpsr.org/mailman/listinfo/governance > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ Francis F. 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