I see your point. But I will not do it. I have little time at the moment and rather use it to prepare the special GNSO meeting Feb. 7/8 in Amsterdam. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, at 21:12 [=GMT-0500], Milton Mueller wrote: > Marc: > draft a statement telling us why you "don't believe in it." > that can work. > > >>> Marc Schneiders <[log in to unmask]> 1/20/2005 3:17:24 PM >>> > Since I don't believe in this move, as I explained, I suggest one of > the other two council reps take this up. It is hard to draft a text > you do not believe in. I will not block anything, but I really cannot > lead the action. I hope you understand, thx. > > Marc > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, at 15:00 [=GMT-0500], Frannie Wellings wrote: > > > In the interest of getting things moving here, can the GNSO Council > > members start drafting something? Even bullet points as Milton > > suggested? Or if you have already started, can you let the list > know? > > > > Many thanks! > > > > Best to all, > > > > Frannie > > > > > > >Ideally, (i.e., the way things should work according to our > charter) > > >NCUC's policy committee, which consists of our elected GNSO Council > > >members, should take the initiative here. If they can draft > something - > > >even just a list of bullet points - and send it to the list the rest > of > > >us can take it from there. > > > > > >>>> Frannie Wellings <[log in to unmask]> 1/18/2005 4:43:35 PM >>> > > >I understand Marc is hesitant, but I really think NCUC should issue > a > > >statement/submit comments about this. ICANN is requesting comments > > >on the transfer policy due February 1. See: > > >http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-12jan05.htm > > > > > >How do we want to go about this? > > > > > >Best, > > > > > >Frannie > > > > > >At 4:18 PM -0500 1/18/05, Milton Mueller wrote: > > >>Marc: > > >>Not quite sure whether a TLD wouild have helped panix yet, but I > do > > >>know that your analysis of Verisign and DNSSEC is not correct. The > > >>reason DNSSEC cannot be implemented for .com is because there are > so > > >>many (tens of millions) of domain names in it. The processing > > >>requirements of DNSSEC applied to that scale is a major problem. > > >> > > >>But the root zone, which contains TLD, does not now and never will > > >>contain millions of records. > > >> > > >>>>> Marc Schneiders <[log in to unmask]> 1/18/2005 2:29:29 PM > >>> > > >>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, at 12:04 [=GMT-0500], Milton Mueller wrote: > > >> > > >>> This incident underscores one of the reasons why ICANN should > have > > >a > > >>> policy of regularly adding TLDs to make them available for > those > > >who > > >>> need and can operate them. > > >> > > >>Though I agree about adding more TLDs, I don't see how it helps in > > >>hijacking domains. > > >> > > >>> Businesses and noncommercial services that depend entirely on > a > > >>domain > > >>> name may want to have the option of owning, rather than > "renting," > > >>their > > >>> domain in order to increase security. > > >> > > >>Maybe we can learn something from the trade mark people here as > > >>regards ownership of something that can also become defunct, if > you > > >>don't use it? > > >> > > >>> According to my imperfect > > >>> understanding, it is easier to implement DNSSEC at the TLD > level > > >than > > >>at > > >>> the SLD level. > > >> > > >>I have little understanding of DNSSEC too. I do understand enough > > >>about it, I think, to know that it would not have helped > panix.com. > > >>Also the implementation is most difficult precisely at the TLD > level. > > >>An engineer from VeriSign is the one who has time and again > pointed > > >>out (on IETF mailing lists, when I still had time to read them) > that > > >>the present protocol is impossible for a zone the size of .com. It > > >>would take ages and a very, very powerful machine to sign it. > > >> > > >>Marc Schneiders > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >~~~ > > >Frannie Wellings > > >Policy Fellow, the Electronic Privacy Information Center ~ > > >http://www.epic.org > > >Director, The Public Voice ~ http://www.thepublicvoice.org > > > > > >1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200 > > >Washington, D.C. 20009 > > >USA > > > > > >[log in to unmask] > > > > > >+1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone) > > >+1 202 483 1248 (fax) > > >~~~ > > > > > > -- > > > > ~~~ > > Frannie Wellings > > Policy Fellow, the Electronic Privacy Information Center ~ > > http://www.epic.org > > Director, The Public Voice ~ http://www.thepublicvoice.org > > > > 1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200 > > Washington, D.C. 20009 > > USA > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > +1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone) > > +1 202 483 1248 (fax) > > ~~~ > > >