NCUC meetings July 11, 2005 Attending: Milton Mueller, Robin Gross, Karen Banks, Adam Peake, Jeanette Hoffman, Marcelo Fernandes Costa, Carlos Afonso, Norbert Klein, Avri Doria, three observers. Administrative matters New elections, transition issues. Discussion of need for someone to volunteer to take over the constituency chair position when Mueller "retires" after his second term, as required by the charter. Some interest was expressed by specific people. Schneiders The group agreed to send a formal request to Marc for documents accounting for his airplane ticket and hotel bill within two weeks. If this was not received within the deadline the Executive Committee would be required to replace him on the Council. Whois: Adopted a draft whois purpose statement for circulation to list. Gave voting directions to Council members on the notification and national exceptions recommendations. GNSO Council Council members N. Klein and R. Gross discussed the process issues that are consuming the attention of the GNSO. These problems have arisen in connection with the .net reassigment. NCUC came to no conclusions about this but agreed that the problem was not raised first by .net but was a recurring and common problem pointing to a structural flaws in ICANN's governance. The role of ICANN in protection of consumers of domain names was discussed. It was agreed that the global nature of the DNS market often made national protection inadequate. Why is it possible to protect TM holders but not individual registrants? Why were TM holders not told to rely on national law? The constituency may make this into an initiative but needs to complete whois and new TLDs first. NCUC agreed to create an award for Task Force work. A representative of .mobi made a presentation Joint ALAC meeting [Held in the afternoon from 2:30 - 5:00] Discussed whois, where there is common agreement. A lot of time spent discussing new TLDs. The ALAC and NCUC have had similar positions on new TLDs, opposing BC/IP attempts to make all TLDs sponsored and restricted and supporting application driven proposals and nondiscriminatory, objective and scheduled procedures for assignment. Both entities will dig up and adjust 2-year old position papers. There was intense debate of separate or combined tracks for IDNs. The group agreed to support separate tracks. Statement draft will be circulated on the list soon. IDNs should be handled by language groups and not confined to ccTLDs, although ccTLDs should be able to apply for them as gTLDs singly or jointly. GNSO and ICANN need to involve people from the affected language groups. ALAC and NUCU agreed to appoint official liaisons who will be added to the appropriate email lists.