I agree with Kathy. Besides, one thing is receiving funding, another is receiving funding under certain conditions. We need a relatively small amount (compared to the amount allocated to ALAC) to allow more effective presence (either online or face-to-face) of our members, which can be done on a rotating basis, and of course we would only accept it without any constraints. I am actually surprised, after reviewing ICANN's operational plan, that NCUC has never before claimed this right. frt rgds --c.a. [log in to unmask] escreveu: > I am going to disagree with Milton ( nothing new there, right?). I think we > are old enough and mature enough as an organization to handle financing from > ICANN. I do not think we need huge amounts (not the numbers of ALAC), but we > do need to ensure than our Council members and TF members can attend meetings. > It is unfortunate that you and I, Milton, could not be at the Public Forum > to support Robin, Norbert and Mawaki. > > This is travel not substance money. And I don't see it coming from PIR or > anywhere else right now. If ICANN funds ALAC, it should help out NCUC -- with > no strings attached. > > K > > >> I don't agree that it is such a great thing to be funded by ICANN, >> especially at ALAC levels. ALAC has a real problem with co-optation and the creation >> of a self-perpetuating clique of insiders who compete for these subsidies. >> For all our difficulties, at least we know, under the current system, that >> people who run for NCUC offices are dedicated to our interests and causes. >> Starting throwing 6-figure sums at it and that can change really fast. On the whole >> it is better to rely on external forms of support, such as the PIR grant and >> the Brazilian foundation etc. You should all be politically astute enough to >> know that who pays the piper calls the tune. >> > > -- Carlos A. Afonso diretor de planejamento Rits -- http://www.rits.org.br ******************************************** * Sacix -- distribuição Debian CDD Linux * * orientada a projetos de inclusão digital * * com software livre e de código aberto, * * mantida pela Rits em colaboração com o * * Coletivo Digital. * * Saiba mais: http://www.sacix.org.br * ********************************************