Hello Milton, just a short note as I have a busy day at the office... Mawaki may formally record my dissent with the constituency position on this issue, and I am happy to continue discussing the matter. The paragraphs below are quotations from Karl Auerbach's blog that manage to capture my perspective on the topic: "Do we really believe that these operators need "presumptive renewal" to give them the incentive to maintain the quality of their TLD businesses so that they can continue to attract and retain customers? I'n certainly not about to drink any of that kind of Cool-Aid. By granting presumptive renewal rights ICANN eliminates the lever it has to coerce a TLD operator should that operator's behavior drift outside the bounds established by published and widely accepted internet standards. In other words, presumptive renewal is a form of institutional self-emasculation. The presumptive renewal clause in the existing ICANN-Verisign contract has almost completely immunized Verisign against anything that ICANN might say or do." http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000263.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com