According to ICANN Bylaws on the GNSO Council (Article X, Section 3): "No two representatives selected by a Constituency shall be citizens of the same country or of countries located in the same Geographic Region." But I agree that we need more flexibility, especially since there may be changes to the geographical regions and we have 6 seats to fill and there are currently only 5 regions, so it just wouldn't square to follow the current bylaws exactly. Rhanks, Robin On Nov 18, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > I support the flexible standard, too. I only said citizenship because > someone (was it Robin?) told me that ICANN required it. But what the > heck, let's put the more flexible standard in there and put the > onus on > them to make us take it out. Bottom-up self governance and all.... > > --MM > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC- >> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Norbert Klein >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 6:04 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Draft NCSG petition, please review >> >> On Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:50:49 William Drake wrote: >>> ,,, >>> One question I do wonder >>> about though concerns 3.4.5, Regional diversity's criteria, "as >>> determined by national citizenship." Lots of folks don't live in >>> their home countries, so perhaps a more flexible approach would be >>> desirable going forward. Why not "as determined by national >>> citizenship or residency"? Is there a history of discussion and >>> decisions on this from before I joined NCUC that I'm not aware of? >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> Bill >> >> >> Thanks, Bill, to raise the regional diversity criteria - I take up > this >> point >> only from your mail. I had formerly also suggested that this needs >> clarification (also in view of the fact that other ICANN structures - > for >> example the Board - may have their own regional diversity criteria), > as we >> have among ourselves (at least) two cases where this may be >> important: >> >> Having worked 18 years in Cambodia (and my Internet related work >> dates >> back to >> 1994 in Cambodia, which I did mainly in cooperation and with advice > and >> assistance from others in Asia), I would feel very strange if - for >> whatever >> reason - the NCSG would consider me according to the "national >> citizenship" >> criterion as a European. >> And Mary Wong, who is now a GNSO Council member, send by the NCUC, > might >> at >> some other time fulfill some function for the NCSG as an Asian >> (though > she >> is >> a resident of North America). >> >> I think your suggestion "as determined by national citizenship or >> residency" >> would leave us most flexibility, and I support your suggestion. >> >> >> Norbert >> -- >> If you want to know what is going on in Cambodia, >> please visit us regularly - you can find something new every day: >> >> http://cambodiamirror.wordpress.com (English) >> http://kanhchoksangkum.wordpress.com (Khmer) >> >> PGP key-id 0x0016D0A9 IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: [log in to unmask]