I am also very much in favor of promoting issues of online and individual safety, however,  my main concern is that if such issues are promoted under the CP80 or the Mormon agenda only certain views will be expressed that reflect the culture and tradition of such groups. Everybody, irrespective of religious or personal beliefs, wants to see an Internet safe and secure; however, the means through which this will be achieved varies amongst the members of the constituency and this is not to say that these views cannot be expressed. However, we always have to bear in mind that these views only represent a small fraction of the constituency and are designed to deal with issues under a different, more religious, perspective that does not necessarily comply with everybody’s idea of how safety online is to be achieved. To me this sounds like an imposition of religious beliefs rather than a  genuine concern about the issues discussed.

Konstantinos


On 19/03/2009 22:52, "Jeremy Geigle" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hear, hear Professor Clifford, your comments are well-taken.

I also agree with the need to look broadly at individual safety online - including identity theft, destruction of resources, child safety, individual choice/control.

Jeremy S. Geigle
President AZFC
JD/MBA

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Subject: Discussion of Cybersafety Constituency

First the background: I am not a member of CP80. I am not a Mormon. I have no
connections to either group of any kind and, before today, I had never heard
of Mr. Yarro. Personally, I don't see pornography as a big problem in society.
Despite this, I am a member of the cybersafety constituency because it is not
the one-issue group that some seem to want to make it; instead, it is a group
of people who are concerned that ICANN's decision-making often ignores issues
of individual safety including such things as identity theft, destruction of
computer resources, etc. And yes, some others in the group are concerned with
the distribution of porn.

Second, a comment: Today's "discussion" has been outrageous. The only thing it
reminds me of are the flame wars that used to erupt on Usenet (although no one
has called someone else a Nazi, yet, just implied it). Unfortunately, that
seems to be the norm in this discussion group. Almost always, ideas are not
exchanged; accusations of conspiracy are. This is too bad as it certainly
discourages the openness that ICANN allegedly wants.

--
Ralph D. Clifford
Professor of Law
S. New England School of Law


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Lecturer in Law,
GigaNet Membership Chair,
University of Strathclyde,
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