Thanks, Bill. I think we should endorse the statement to NTIA since we haven't had a chance to file our own. Thanks, Robin On Jun 8, 2009, at 4:00 AM, William Drake wrote: > I missed the suggestion below from Milton so am forwarding now. > > The IGF Internet Governance Caucus, of which many of us here are > members, is submitting comments to NTIA on the JPA. Since we > didn't manage to do our own, I asked whether it was possible for > NCUC to sign on to the IGC's, and people seemed fine with that. > Unfortunately, comments are due today so we'd have to decide very > quickly. > > Would it be possible to get quick consensus on endorsing the > statement below, or should we just let it go? > > Bill > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "carlos a. afonso" <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: June 8, 2009 12:39:45 PM GMT+02:00 >> To: "Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee & GNSO >> Reps. Discussion" <[log in to unmask]>, "Milton L Mueller" >> <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: [Ncu-exec] Fwd: [governance] CONSENSUS CALL - JPA >> statement >> Reply-To: "Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee & >> GNSO Reps. Discussion" <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Yes, I think NCUC should endorse it. >> >> --c.a. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> >> To: "Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee & GNSO >> Reps. >> Discussion" <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 14:52:10 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Ncu-exec] Fwd: [governance] CONSENSUS CALL - JPA >> statement >> >>> Sure, why not send this to the discuss list? >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of William Drake >>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:48 AM >>> To: NCUC EC-Council List >>> Subject: [Ncu-exec] Fwd: [governance] CONSENSUS CALL - JPA statement >>> >>> NCUC didn't manage amidst other stuff to do a statement on JPA. >>> Would we want to endorse the IGC statement? I doubt anyone in IGC >>> would object. But we'd have to decide quickly... >>> >>> Just a thought, it'd be a small pity for NCUC to be silent. >>> >>> BD >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> >>> From: Ian Peter >>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> Date: June 5, 2009 11:54:35 PM GMT+02:00 >>> To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" >>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> Subject: [governance] CONSENSUS CALL - JPA statement >>> Reply-To: >>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>,Ian >>> Peter >>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> >>> Below is the final statement we propose to send to DOC (and need to >>> submit by June 8). Please indicate YES or NO as regards your support >>> for this statement - if you have already indicated in the previous >>> draft a YES, there is no need to vote again (in the interests of >>> email flow). At this stage I am assuming we have a consensus for >>> this >>> unless strong objections are raised in the next 48 hours. >>> >>> At this stage no amendments can be accepted which changes the >>> meaning >>> or emphasis of the text. However we can certainly consider simple >>> changes that clarify the expression if you feel strongly about them. >>> >>> Thank you everyone for your participation! >>> >>> DRAFT FOLLOWS >>> >>> >>> The Internet Governance Caucus is a global coalition of civil >>> society >>> and non governmental organisations and individuals actively involved >>> the UN's Internet Governance Forum (IGF) process. Formed during the >>> lead up to the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), our >>> mission is to provide a forum for discussion, advocacy, action, and >>> for representation of civil society contributions in Internet >>> governance processes. We have several hundred members, with a wide >>> spread of geographic representation; more about our coalition can be >>> found at www.igcaucus.org<http://www.igcaucus.org>. >>> >>> We are thankful for the opportunity to comment on the Joint Project >>> Agreement (JPA) with ICANN, and respectfully submit as follows. >>> >>> In responding to your call for comments, we are mindful of the WSIS >>> principles, which " recognize that Internet governance, carried out >>> according to the Geneva principles, is an essential element for a >>> people-centred, inclusive, development-oriented and >>> non-discriminatory Information Society". We also recognise the need >>> for high levels of global co-operation from all stakeholder >>> groups to >>> ensure Internet stability and security. >>> >>> On your question as regards the future of the JPA - The IGC firmly >>> believes that global co-operation will be enhanced by a transition >>> beyond the JPA to a situation where all stakeholders feel that they >>> have equitable arrangements for participation, that ICANN is subject >>> to due process procedures and is accountable to all stakeholders. >>> Therefore, the IGC believes that merely extending the current JPA >>> arrangement is not a lasting viable solution. >>> >>> Some of us believe the JPA should be ended now, as it is an >>> ineffective mechanism to deal with the problems that must be >>> resolved >>> to place ICANN on a viable long-term path forward. On the other >>> hand, >>> some of us believe that a time-limited extension of the JPA might be >>> the most effective means to ensure that ICANN does take on board >>> necessary changes. >>> >>> Irrespective of when the JPA actually ends however, the IGC believes >>> that it should be replaced by a new global accountability framework, >>> the development of which should commence as soon as possible in an >>> open, multistakeholder, transparent and inclusive process. >>> >>> Also irrespective of whether the JPA continues or not, we believe >>> that certain principles outlined below need to be embedded in >>> ICANN's >>> operation. We believe these should be covered by an undertaking by >>> ICANN to perpetuate in its constitution, by laws, or some similar >>> accountability mechanism, the principles which follow. The >>> principles >>> need to be embedded in such a way as to ensure they cannot easily be >>> changed to exclude any stakeholder group. The principles which need >>> to be permanently embedded are: >>> >>> * bottom up co-ordination >>> >>> >>> * balanced multi stakeholder representation, including civil >>> society interests and Internet users >>> >>> >>> * ensuring the stability of the Internet >>> >>> >>> * transparency >>> >>> >>> * appropriate accountability mechanisms >>> >>> >>> * continuing evolution of an effective and appropriate >>> governance model which is multilateral, multistakeholder, >>> democratic, >>> and transparent >>> >>> >>> * decision making driven by the public interest >>> >>> We also propose to replace "private sector management" with >>> multistakeholder management, which has evolved from the World Summit >>> on the Information Society and the Internet Governance Forum process >>> which the US Government has supported, and which is an important >>> facet, we believe, of effective internet governance arrangements. >>> >>> We think the establishment of firm principles to guide the evolution >>> of a model is the appropriate way to proceed. This should explicitly >>> recognize that ICANN is a global governance institution with >>> regulatory authority over an industry (domain name registration) and >>> over critical resources (IP addresses, root servers and addresses). >>> The standards of due process, rights, and accountability that apply >>> to ICANN must be developed with these facts in mind. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian Peter and Ginger Paque, Co-coordinators, for the Internet >>> Governance Caucus >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> To be removed from the list, send any message to: >>> >>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:governance- >>> unsubscribe@l >>> ists.cpsr.org> >>> >>> For all list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >>> > > *********************************************************** > William J. 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