On 18 Aug 2009, at 10:24, Adam Peake wrote: > ust think that had the offer been made earlier it would have been > more difficult for the manipulation you're concerned about to > happen. There might have been a real opportunity for those > interested to do some outreach, not handing out cash to anyone who > asked, but a "community" effort. Now it will be staff led. I do not see any reason to allow it to be 'staff lead.' at least not without getting in their face every time they do something that deviates from bottom-up processes. This should be one of the things that the NCSG works on once it is formed - to remove the control from staff of process that should be bottom-up. ICANN must be made to live up to its hype. And new constituencies must spring from genuine communities - not Policy Staff created assemblages. a.