The quoted email from Roberto seems quite remarkable. Essentially, it seems as if both Roberto and the SIC have already more or less conceded our main point. It sounds like in Seoul we should simply keep repeating that we want constituencies, we just don't want them directly linked to voting. Then see if anyone sticks is willing to actually speak up for constituencies linked to voting - and if no one is, then we don't need to promote our NCSG charter per se, just make it clear that the SIC charter is fatally flawed on that basis, and we are happy to hear alternatives to our own that still ensure represenation. Cheers David