Carlos,

Right, sorry for the imprecision, I meant you cannot identify the person who said something.

cheers,

BD

On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

Bill, it is more than names. Since 2002 the Rule (there is only one
rule) states:

When a meeting, or part thereof, is held under the Chatham House Rule,
participants are free to use the information received, but neither the
identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other
participant, may be revealed.

This is more than names. I cannot say "Chuck Gomez said this", and I
cannot say "the representative of Verisign said this " or even "the
chair of GNSO said this".

--c.a.

William Drake wrote:
Robin

Chatham doesn't make it secret, it just strips out the names of who
said what.  The content still comes out. Other SGs feel that's
important to them being able to participate (pertains mostly to
inter-corporate squabbling) and I don't think we could have gotten a
consensus council statement without it.  And that council statement
does call for two way info flow with AC/SOs, which was not in the
staff proposal.  So less than perfect transparency, but more than
there'd have been otherwise.

Best,

Bill

On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Robin Gross wrote:

Thanks for sending this draft council letter around.  It is very
good except I do not agree that the review groups should operate
under Chatham House Rules on confidentiality.  It would certainly
be a step backward for a group that is to assess the openness and
transparency of ICANN to operate in this secret fashion and
contrary to ICANN's promises of openness and transparency.
Everything else in the letter looks good however.

Thanks, Robin


On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:15 AM, William Drake wrote:

Hi

Please see the attached draft and let me know if you have any
comments etc.  Otherwise I'll propose a motion tomorrow...

Thanks,

Bill

<Draft GNSO Council response to the draft proposal on the
Affirmation Reviews Requirements and Implementation
Processes.pdf>


Begin forwarded message:

From: "Gomes, Chuck" <[log in to unmask]> Date: January 19,
2010 4:58:20 PM GMT+01:00 To: "William Drake"
<[log in to unmask]>, "GNSO Council List"
<[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: [council] Draft Council
letter on the ARR

Please forward this to your SGs/Constituencies right away and
request feedback.  The Council will need to make a decision on
whether to submit the comments or some revised version of them
in our 28 Jan meeting.  If anyone wants to make a motion in
that regard, motions are needed by tomorrow, Wednesday, 20
January.

Chuck

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of William
Drake Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:40 AM To: GNSO
Council List Subject: [council] Draft Council letter on the
ARR

Hello,

Attached please find the drafting team's proposed response to
the draft proposal on the Affirmation Reviews Requirements
and Implementation Processes, for discussion with our
respective SGs and in the Council.

Best,

Bill


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