On 23 Jan 2010, at 19:22, Nuno Garcia wrote: > Transparency is a value, and values, if sound and ethically born, must > never be sacrificed. I say it before coming forth to support > transcriptions. btw, i support transcription - unless they mean that people with something to say will not say it. i guess i may have a bit too much pragmatism mixed in with my ideals. we need allies, and our allies can't always afford to be 100% transparent - even people in the NCUC or NCSG aren't willing to be 100% transparent. wen i created the lists, i put archives on both the NCSG Executive committee and Policy lists and some people are not comfortable saying everything on an archived list. i even set them up so other people could email to them - albeit in a moderated way - a revolution in NC or GNSO lists in general. it is the way things are. do we want to go for 100% transparency? part of the koolaid i brought from the GNSO was a preference for 100% transparency of all email lists and all meetings. but other SGs don't do it. and i am not even sure NCSG wants to do it. to require something of others we can't even commit to ourselves seems a bit someting to me. > Maybe I don't belong in this community after all, and again maybe > that's why I should stay. hey i think i may be too pragmatic for this crowd (with a love of gnso koolaid) and constantly think i should find something else to do with my time. and you think you are too transparent for this crowd. perhaps we both belong in a diverse crowd where neither of us feels totally comfortable. the big tent of the NCSG? what do i know, i just came back from a good dinner with a lot of fine Spanish and Catalonian wine (or is that too much transparency) so I might regret this note tomorrow. a.