Hi, The issue is that when one complains about this cost, the reply is that the 185,000 fee is nothing when compared to the cost of running a registry. So when one responds that in developing areas, the cost of running a new registry, especially a small one with a slow ramp up will be much lower, we are asked to prove it. And to date have not had the figures to do so. I..e when I make the argument that it cost less to do a proper regisrty in Cambodia or Kenya, I am just handwaving, because I do not have the financial facts. a. On 17 Mar 2010, at 22:20, Norbert Klein wrote: > Thanks, Rafik, > > to take up the question of running a TLD, and the fact that these costs > might be quite different depending on the location. (I created and > administered a ccTLD for some years). > > Most of the discussions I see related to new TLDs are dealing with the > "$185,000" - and though I know this is to be "cost recovery" I am not > aware how this is being calculated in detail (any lead/URL is appreciated). > > Is this "cost recovery" calculation also related to the location where > it is done? Surely. Is this necessarily so? > > > Norbert Klein > > = > > > Rafik Dammak wrote: >> Hello Jorge, >> >> during questions to the board members, one argument that we used was >> that cost for running ccTLD in developing countries isn't so high, is >> there any study about that? >> there will be working group about possible funding approach for >> applicants (at least I heard that there is attempts to contact world >> bank and so on to fund applicants from developing countries) >> the board resolution : >> "the Board requests stakeholders to work through their SOs and ACs, >> and form a Working Group to develop a sustainable approach to >> providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for >> and operating new gTLDs ." >> >> Regards >> >> Rafik >> >> 2010/3/18 Jorge Amodio <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >> >> Well, if that is your understanding good luck going through the >> technical evaluation, be aware that once you pay the evaluation fee >> depending on what phase of the evaluation your application goes >> through if you withdraw or become not eligible not all the monies are >> refundable. >> >> BTW, I ran a ccTLD for many years, TLDs are not hard to create they >> are hard to maintain. >> >> Regards >> Jorge >> >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Marc Perkel >> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> Actually I don't think you're right. I haven't done it but TLDs >> are not hard >>> to create. Just a few lines in a BIND file. All you need to make >> it official >>> is having the root servers hand it off to my private TLD >> servers. As to >>> capacity, if the TLD is small then you don't need much of a >> server to handle >>> it. I could add it to my current name servers. >>> >>> Jorge Amodio wrote: >>>> >>>> Actually as other said $185K is just for starters, it really >> depends >>>> on what do you intend to do with the new gTLD. >>>> >>>> To run or outsource a full fledged registry you have to think >> in the >>>> order of a $500K-$1M initial investment, and that does not >> include the >>>> costs of a legal battle with others such as ReMax that may >> intend to >>>> apply for the same string. >>>> >>>> If you don't have that money on the bank or investors willing >> to foot >>>> the bill you are out of the game. >>>> >>>> My .02 >>>> Jorge >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Marc Perkel >> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Avri Doria wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:11, Marc Perkel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW - how do I apply for the .reality TLD? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> once the final applicant guidebook is released sometime >> between now and >>>>> 2012 >>>>> (draft details can be found at >>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm), follow its >>>>> instructions, pay the big bucks (185,000 USD at the moment) >> and then go >>>>> through the process and hang on through the challenges. >>>>> >>>>> better have some deep pocket for the ride. >>>>> >>>>> a. >>>>> >>>>> $185,000 - so only the rich can get TLDs. Why is that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > If you want to know what is going on in Cambodia, please visit > The Mirror, a regular review of the Cambodian language press in English. > > This is the latest weekly editorial of the Mirror: > > > The Passing of the Anti-Corruption Law, and Planned Changes in Telecommunications > Sunday, 14.3.2010 > > http://tinyurl.com/yavafd3 > (to read it, click on the line above.) > > And here is something new every day: > http://cambodiamirror.wordpress.com