This is so true! On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a small > portion of the politically active population. > > The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a > membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous > portion of the population. > > The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a > membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise > participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of > the population. > > The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to > make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or > may not be drawn from the previous population). > > <repeat as necessary> > > > > Bottom line of this cascade: > > I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have. > > > > From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Rafik Dammak > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member > > > > Hi, > > > > I totally agree with Bill, I think for outreach we are doing well and we > can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in > WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent. > > Regards > > > > Rafik > > > > 2010/5/24 William Drake <[log in to unmask]> > > Hi > > I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a > great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and > distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure. After a rather > protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to > meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS > applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school > outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work. In > the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through > Robin's online outreach. > > Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to consolidate > and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first instance on the > charter vote. If we can meet the threshold and get the charter passed ASAP, > then sure our media team http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a > leaflet as part of its strategy. But I wouldn't let a piece of paper > distract the whole group from the pressing task at hand. > > Two cents, > > Bill > > On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >> What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn >> out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked >> how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible, >> suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000 >> or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to >> give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels. >> >> Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing >> something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a >> sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's >> Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that >> US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY >> would be willing. >> >> 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some >> additional shipping. >> http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11 >> >> The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as >> a pdf and then printed at will. >> >> joly >> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN. >>> >>> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the >>> charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of the >>> reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I have put >>> off because of the amount of work involved in the charter process. While it >>> is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we need need to find a way >>> to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and getting members from >>> developing regions to the meeting so they can participate fully in the ICANN >>> process. >>> >>> a. >>> >>> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote: >>> >>>> It's a good idea. >>>> >>>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by >>>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that >>>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG? >>>> >>>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design >>>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/ >>>> >>>> j >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> First welcoming on board AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN >>>>> with a Soul ;o) >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be >>>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on >>>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi >>>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional >>>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc. >>>>> >>>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is, >>>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a >>>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in >>>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones >>>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year. >>>>> >>>>> Its a start you know :o) >>>>> >>>>> -- Best >>>>> Fouad >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical >>>>>> Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an >>>>>> organizational member of the NCSG. >>>>>> >>>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org: >>>>>> >>>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited Canadian >>>>>> medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and health >>>>>> systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers; and >>>>>> nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these institutions and >>>>>> organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty members, 75,000 medical >>>>>> students, and 106,000 resident physicians. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and >>>>>> has been added to this discussion list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber. >>>>>> >>>>>> a. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------- > > *********************************************************** > William J. 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