Hi Grace, I'll try to blog out on the simple, yet seemingly difficult issues consumers face in the domain space. kind regards, Alex On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Grace Bomu <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > As a less than a year old member, ICANN and NCUC sometimes seems like > a complex matrix. The acronyms, abbreviations, emerging issues and > questions are numerous! > A new member may be overwhelmed at first. > But take heart, the discussions on the mailing list do at least > simplify the issues for the most part... > Yes, there is need to cultivate members. > > On 24/05/2010, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a small >> portion of the politically active population. >> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a >> membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous >> portion of the population. >> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a >> membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise >> participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of >> the population. >> The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to >> make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or >> may not be drawn from the previous population). >> <repeat as necessary> >> >> Bottom line of this cascade: >> I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have. >> >> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Rafik Dammak >> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member >> >> Hi, >> >> I totally agree with Bill, I think for outreach we are doing well and we >> can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in >> WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent. >> >> Regards >> >> Rafik >> >> 2010/5/24 William Drake >> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >> Hi >> >> I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a >> great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and >> distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure. After a rather >> protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to >> meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS >> applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school >> outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work. In >> the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through >> Robin's online outreach. >> >> Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to consolidate >> and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first instance on the >> charter vote. If we can meet the threshold and get the charter passed ASAP, >> then sure our media team http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a >> leaflet as part of its strategy. But I wouldn't let a piece of paper >> distract the whole group from the pressing task at hand. >> >> Two cents, >> >> Bill >> >> >> On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: >> >>> What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn >>> out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked >>> how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible, >>> suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000 >>> or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to >>> give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels. >>> >>> Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing >>> something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a >>> sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's >>> Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that >>> US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY >>> would be willing. >>> >>> 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some >>> additional shipping. >>> http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11 >>> >>> The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as >>> a pdf and then printed at will. >>> >>> joly >>> >>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria >>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN. >>>> >>>> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the >>>> charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of >>>> the reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I >>>> have put off because of the amount of work involved in the charter >>>> process. While it is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we >>>> need need to find a way to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and >>>> getting members from developing regions to the meeting so they can >>>> participate fully in the ICANN process. >>>> >>>> a. >>>> >>>> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by >>>>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that >>>>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG? >>>>> >>>>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design >>>>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/ >>>>> >>>>> j >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa >>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>>>> First welcoming on board AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN >>>>>> with a Soul ;o) >>>>>> >>>>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be >>>>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on >>>>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi >>>>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional >>>>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is, >>>>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a >>>>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in >>>>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones >>>>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Its a start you know :o) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Best >>>>>> Fouad >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria >>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical >>>>>>> Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an >>>>>>> organizational member of the NCSG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited Canadian >>>>>>> medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and health >>>>>>> systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers; >>>>>>> and nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these >>>>>>> institutions and organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty >>>>>>> members, 75,000 medical students, and 106,000 resident physicians. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and >>>>>>> has been added to this discussion list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> *********************************************************** >> William J. Drake >> Senior Associate >> Centre for International Governance >> Graduate Institute of International and >> Development Studies >> Geneva, Switzerland >> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html<http://www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html> >> *********************************************************** >> >> > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) > +254721898732 > +254736091242 > Kenya >