2010/5/24, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]>: > > The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a > small portion of the politically active population. > Correct, in some countries like my own country we meet a lot of barrior: social, cultural, economic and decison makers. a specifiic barrior is in linguistic level. The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a > membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous > portion of the population. > we have a serious problem of ICANN visiblity in local area. The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a > membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise > participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of > the population. > With several constituencies, I thing the process is on. The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to > make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or > may not be drawn from the previous population). > in this point, three points can be identify: -local agenda -speed, plurality and quantity of items -linguistic problem <repeat as necessary> > > > > Bottom line of this cascade: > > I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have. > > I approve this argument > > *From:* NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf > Of *Rafik Dammak > *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member > > > > Hi, > > > > I totally agree with Bill, I think for outreach we are doing well and we > can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in > WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent. > > > Regards > > > > Rafik > > > > 2010/5/24 William Drake <[log in to unmask]> > > Hi > > I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a > great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and > distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure. After a rather > protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to > meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS > applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school > outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work. In > the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through > Robin's online outreach. > > Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to > consolidate and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first > instance on the charter vote. If we can meet the threshold and get the > charter passed ASAP, then sure our media team > http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a leaflet as part of its > strategy. But I wouldn't let a piece of paper distract the whole group from > the pressing task at hand. > > Two cents, > > Bill > > > > On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > > > What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn > > out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked > > how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible, > > suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000 > > or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to > > give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels. > > > > Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing > > something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a > > sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's > > Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that > > US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY > > would be willing. > > > > 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some > > additional shipping. > > http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11 > > > > The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as > > a pdf and then printed at will. > > > > joly > > > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN. > >> > >> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the > charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of the > reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I have put > off because of the amount of work involved in the charter process. While it > is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we need need to find a way > to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and getting members from > developing regions to the meeting so they can participate fully in the ICANN > process. > >> > >> a. > >> > >> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote: > >> > >>> It's a good idea. > >>> > >>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by > >>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that > >>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG? > >>> > >>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design > >>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/ > >>> > >>> j > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >>>> First welcoming on board AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN > >>>> with a Soul ;o) > >>>> > >>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be > >>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on > >>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi > >>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional > >>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc. > >>>> > >>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is, > >>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a > >>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in > >>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones > >>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year. > >>>> > >>>> Its a start you know :o) > >>>> > >>>> -- Best > >>>> Fouad > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical > Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an > organizational member of the NCSG. > >>>>> > >>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org: > >>>>> > >>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited > Canadian medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and > health systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers; > and nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these institutions > and organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty members, 75,000 > medical students, and 106,000 resident physicians. > >>>>> > >>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and > has been added to this discussion list. > >>>>> > >>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber. > >>>>> > >>>>> a. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > >>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com > >>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com > >>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com > > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com > > Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > *********************************************************** > William J. 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