Hi Fouad, With due respect, AAAMC and Amber as its rep are part of NCSG. And I am glad of it. she may also want to get involved in AT-Large. but as far as her membership goes that has been settled, whether she is part of a Constituency application or not. What we now need to resolve is how to move on from her with our membership. thanks a. On 17 Jun 2010, at 13:50, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > Amber, have you attended any NCSG-NCUC meeting as yet, I don't > remember you participating to raise any concerns or intentions in > Seoul or Nairobi? > > Maybe you are attempting to create a conflict of interest in the name > of a non-profit constituency and you may want to explore the option of > becoming an At-Large ALS under ALAC: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/ > > Community process strengthening and participation is about winning > consensus and support of the community, not going totally against the > whole Non-Commercial spirit. > > Lurking on lists is not a reason to confide in and that creates > serious concerns. As a member of NCSG-NCUC from the developing world, > I would never recommend such an approach because it also exposes > intentions of many such as the ICANN staff issue already raised here. > > IMHO, you should win community and not turn the community against this > issue therefore you should respect the community member's concerns > because alone, there is no constituency. > > The concerns shown by the membership of the NCSG-NCUC community are > very valid and your position is a discrimination one. > > It is still my humble advice that you should join the ICANN community > and constituency process through ALAC and NARALO (North American > Regional At-Large Organization) instead of attempting to create cracks > in the existing one. > > -- > Concerned > -------------------------- > Fouad Bajwa > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Amber Sterling <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> I am one of the leaders supporting the proposed Not-for-Profit >> Organization Constituency. First and foremost the proposed NPOC is not >> an attempt to merely expand trademark owners rights. >> >> I have been a lurker on this list serve for a while now and I believe >> that the NCSG does not promote various opinions and discussions from its >> "dynamic representation of various social classes". The NPOC would >> allow not-for-profit organizations to affiliate and respond to various >> DNS issues, as it pertains to our organizations. >> >> Debra Hughes, another leader of the NPOC, reached out to all GNSO >> council members. Rafik even joined one of our outreach webinars. >> >> Further, it is my understanding that ICANN has strongly encouraged (if >> not mandated) membership expansion. This new constituency would be a >> vehicle for new members to join the ICANN conversation. >> >> Amber Sterling >> Business Development Specialist >> Association of American Medical Colleges >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Konstantinos Komaitis >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:19 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - >> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency >> >> That is very true - because we have been so very good at stopping the >> expansion of trademarks outside our circles now we will have to do the >> same within our own one. It is embarrassing for a constituency that >> calls itself non-commercial to promote the ICANN-led protection of >> trademarks and seek to justify it. >> >> KK >> >> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis, >> Law Lecturer, >> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses >> University of Strathclyde, >> The Law School, >> The Lord Hope Building, >> 141 St. James Road, >> Glasgow, G4 0LT >> UK >> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306 >> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Reg >> ulation-isbn9780415477765 >> Selected publications: >> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038 >> Website: http://domainnamelaw.ning.com/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Kimberley Heitman >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:57 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - >> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency >> >>> I do not understand very well. Why option to form a nonprofit group? >> Are >>> we not in a dynamic representation of various social classes? >> >> Have you noticed the proponents all have an interest in trademarks? A >> cynic >> might think that it is an attempted takeover of the public interest >> constituency by trademark owners, launched from the home of >> astro-turfing. >> >> ----------------------- >> Kimberley James Heitman >> www.kheitman.com >> ----------------------- >> >