On 17 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Avri Doria wrote: > Hi Fouad, > > With due respect, AAAMC and Amber as its rep are part of NCSG. And I am glad of it. she may also want to get involved in AT-Large. but as far as her membership goes that has been settled, whether she is part of a Constituency application or not. > > What we now need to resolve is how to move on from her with our membership. Move on from here with our membership. > > thanks > > a. > > > > On 17 Jun 2010, at 13:50, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > >> Amber, have you attended any NCSG-NCUC meeting as yet, I don't >> remember you participating to raise any concerns or intentions in >> Seoul or Nairobi? >> >> Maybe you are attempting to create a conflict of interest in the name >> of a non-profit constituency and you may want to explore the option of >> becoming an At-Large ALS under ALAC: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/ >> >> Community process strengthening and participation is about winning >> consensus and support of the community, not going totally against the >> whole Non-Commercial spirit. >> >> Lurking on lists is not a reason to confide in and that creates >> serious concerns. As a member of NCSG-NCUC from the developing world, >> I would never recommend such an approach because it also exposes >> intentions of many such as the ICANN staff issue already raised here. >> >> IMHO, you should win community and not turn the community against this >> issue therefore you should respect the community member's concerns >> because alone, there is no constituency. >> >> The concerns shown by the membership of the NCSG-NCUC community are >> very valid and your position is a discrimination one. >> >> It is still my humble advice that you should join the ICANN community >> and constituency process through ALAC and NARALO (North American >> Regional At-Large Organization) instead of attempting to create cracks >> in the existing one. >> >> -- >> Concerned >> -------------------------- >> Fouad Bajwa >> >> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Amber Sterling <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> I am one of the leaders supporting the proposed Not-for-Profit >>> Organization Constituency. First and foremost the proposed NPOC is not >>> an attempt to merely expand trademark owners rights. >>> >>> I have been a lurker on this list serve for a while now and I believe >>> that the NCSG does not promote various opinions and discussions from its >>> "dynamic representation of various social classes". The NPOC would >>> allow not-for-profit organizations to affiliate and respond to various >>> DNS issues, as it pertains to our organizations. >>> >>> Debra Hughes, another leader of the NPOC, reached out to all GNSO >>> council members. Rafik even joined one of our outreach webinars. >>> >>> Further, it is my understanding that ICANN has strongly encouraged (if >>> not mandated) membership expansion. This new constituency would be a >>> vehicle for new members to join the ICANN conversation. >>> >>> Amber Sterling >>> Business Development Specialist >>> Association of American Medical Colleges >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>> Konstantinos Komaitis >>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:19 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - >>> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency >>> >>> That is very true - because we have been so very good at stopping the >>> expansion of trademarks outside our circles now we will have to do the >>> same within our own one. It is embarrassing for a constituency that >>> calls itself non-commercial to promote the ICANN-led protection of >>> trademarks and seek to justify it. >>> >>> KK >>> >>> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis, >>> Law Lecturer, >>> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses >>> University of Strathclyde, >>> The Law School, >>> The Lord Hope Building, >>> 141 St. James Road, >>> Glasgow, G4 0LT >>> UK >>> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306 >>> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Reg >>> ulation-isbn9780415477765 >>> Selected publications: >>> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038 >>> Website: http://domainnamelaw.ning.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>> Kimberley Heitman >>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:57 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [council] FYI - New GNSO Constituency Notice of Intent - >>> Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency >>> >>>> I do not understand very well. Why option to form a nonprofit group? >>> Are >>>> we not in a dynamic representation of various social classes? >>> >>> Have you noticed the proponents all have an interest in trademarks? A >>> cynic >>> might think that it is an attempted takeover of the public interest >>> constituency by trademark owners, launched from the home of >>> astro-turfing. >>> >>> ----------------------- >>> Kimberley James Heitman >>> www.kheitman.com >>> ----------------------- >>> >> >