Dear all, I do not feel very comfortable with this line of emails - it is true that one reveals itself in small details. However, we must not judge a man on a single incident. Please allow for the dust to settle, and then, judge the professional, not the air-passenger that may have been disturbed for some reason. Anyway, I do not know enough of this issue to make an educated comment. BR, Nuno Garcia 2010/7/29 Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> > Hey, dear Brian, relax! Do you really think Amodio and I are treating this > as a laughing matter?? > > I do not think it is humor, actually -- I think it is ironic, heavily > ironic. And is a way to stress the increasing dominance of the so-called > "intelligence" apparatus (offense to the really intelligent) in the Icann > system. > > I mean, Icann organizes an "open" discussion on the unacceptable MAPO rules > embedded in the DAG, and invites the dogs instead of their masters to the > discussion -- FBI, Interpol etc instead of the policy makers and regulators > who command these guys. This is obviously to the benefit of that part of the > business community which wants everything to be easily traceable without > recourse to Court. A police officer wants his job easier, and so do the IPR > constituency. It is actually sad and infuriating, so we are not laughing at > all despite the little icons. > > --c.a. > > > On 07/29/2010 02:13 PM, Brian Drolet wrote: > >> While there is some humor in the Fowlie fiasco, stocking ICANN with police >> agents is a) not a laughing matter and b) part of the larger context of the >> militarization of governments and agencies throughout the world, >> particularly in the arenas of "unregulated" citizen communication and >> behavior. The debate on privacy vs security in the age of intensified >> government secrecy and "Total Information Awareness" is part of a much >> larger battle. For example, the Washington Post reported on July 29th: "The >> [Obama] administration wants to add just four words -- "electronic >> communication transactional records" -- to a list of items that the law says >> the FBI may demand without a judge's approval. Government lawyers say this >> category of information includes the addresses to which an Internet user >> sends e-mail; the times and dates e-mail was sent and received; and possibly >> a user's browser history." Of course Jane Lute, the Department of Homeland >> Security deputy secretary assured an audi >> > > ence at the Black Hat conference this week that "she wants "to create a > safe, secure, resilient place where we can thrive...The goal here is not > control. It's confidence." > >> >> Brian Drolet >> Deep Dish TV >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: "Carlos A. Afonso"<[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Jul 29, 2010 11:03 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: more news on ICANN Ombudsman Frank Fowlie's air rage >>> incident& cover-up attempt >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Well, re "liking" as a motivation, humans use to behave like this, >>> especially in positions of power. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> On 07/28/2010 09:23 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: >>> >>>> What is it becoming? A new international law enforcement body overseen >>>>> by >>>>> the US gov? >>>>> >>>> >>>> We are watching the transformation of ICANN into KHAOS, somebody needs >>>> to call Maxwell Smart. >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> BTW since when "like" is a measure of performance ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Jorge >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carlos A. Afonso >>> CGI.br (www.cgi.br) >>> Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) >>> ==================================== >>> new/nuevo/novo e-mail: [log in to unmask] >>> ==================================== >>> >> >> >> > -- > > Carlos A. Afonso > CGI.br (www.cgi.br) > Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) > ==================================== > new/nuevo/novo e-mail: [log in to unmask] > ==================================== >