I have already commented on this as well. I find unacceptable that Icann approaches this issue with an emphasis on the point of view of law enforcers, who just obey orders from lawmakers and regulators (in a democracy at least, I assume) -- so Icann should bring these people to the discussion table instead. So I entirely agree with Robin's concerns. frt rgds --c.a. On 07/27/2010 08:44 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: > Yes - I have to object as well. ICANN is not a law enforcement agency > and should not see itself as policing the Internet. This would be like > telling the phone company that they are a branch of law enforcement and > can listen in on phone calls. Or having utility copmanies spying on > their customers for law enforcement. Or having priests turn people in to > law enforcement. > > I don't see where law enforcement has a role to play in ICANN at all. > > On 7/27/2010 2:53 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> Why is ICANN specifically trying to stack the deck of this Whois group >> with "law enforcement representatives"? >> >> When did the community agree to specify it wanted "law enforcement" in >> this group (rather than privacy commissioners, for example)? >> >> Obviously this is an attempt to create a specific outcome in line with >> the many requests for more personal information that we've seen coming >> from law enforcement & IPR collaborations lately (full-court press in >> Brussels). >> >> Ironically, this notice itself is an example of the kind of staff >> manipulation to create desired policy outcomes that the Accountability >> and Transparency Review Teams need to hear about in the first place. >> >> Robin >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> *Date: *July 27, 2010 6:01:52 AM PDT >>> *To: *liaison6c <[log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> *Subject: **[liaison6c] Call for Independent Experts, Law Enforcement >>> Representatives and Global Policy Experts - WHOIS Policy Review (AoC)* >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-26jul10-en.htm >>> Call for Independent Experts, Law Enforcement Representatives and >>> Global Policy Experts - WHOIS Policy Review (AoC) >>> >>> 26 July 2010 >>> >>> Deadline: 6 September 2010 - 23:59 UTC >>> >>> The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four >>> key ICANN objectives, namely: >>> >>> Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global >>> Internet users; >>> Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; >>> Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; >>> WHOIS policy. >>> In line with the Affirmation provisions, the WHOIS Policy Review >>> (WIR) is to be objectively performed by a Review Team composed of: >>> >>> Volunteer Community Members representing the relevant Supporting >>> Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN; >>> ICANN CEO (or designated nominee); >>> GAC Chair (or designated nominee); >>> Representatives of Law Enforcement >>> Global Policy Experts; and >>> Independent experts. >>> The composition of this Review Team shall be jointly determined by >>> the CEO of ICANN - Mr. Rod Beckstrom - and Chair of the GAC - Mrs. >>> Heather Dryden (in consultation with GAC Members). >>> >>> Whereas a Call for Applicants for volunteer RT Members was launched >>> on June 1, ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a >>> position of Independent Expert, Law Enforcement Representative or >>> Global Policy Expert on the WHOIS Policy Review Team. >>> >>> Please refer to the WHOIS Policy Review - Call for Independent >>> Experts, Law Enforcement Representatives and Global Policy Experts, >>> Details [PDF, 92 KB] for further information and instructions on the >>> application process. >>> >>> An extensive expertise in the subject under review as well as an >>> ability to remain fully independent and objective constitute highly >>> desired requirements for a valid application. >>> >>> Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation to >>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> by 6 >>> September 2010 - 23:59 UTC. Relevant experience should be clearly stated. >>> >>> >>> Glen de Saint Géry >>> GNSO Secretariat >>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> http://gnso.icann.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> IP JUSTICE >> Robin Gross, Executive Director >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: [log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >> >> >> -- Carlos A. Afonso CGI.br (www.cgi.br) Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) ==================================== new/nuevo/novo e-mail: [log in to unmask] ====================================