Yeah - ICANN is a DNS company. Should keep the focus on nameserver technology. No mission creep. On 7/27/2010 5:05 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > I have already commented on this as well. I find unacceptable that > Icann approaches this issue with an emphasis on the point of view of > law enforcers, who just obey orders from lawmakers and regulators (in > a democracy at least, I assume) -- so Icann should bring these people > to the discussion table instead. > > So I entirely agree with Robin's concerns. > > frt rgds > > --c.a. > > On 07/27/2010 08:44 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: >> Yes - I have to object as well. ICANN is not a law enforcement agency >> and should not see itself as policing the Internet. This would be like >> telling the phone company that they are a branch of law enforcement and >> can listen in on phone calls. Or having utility copmanies spying on >> their customers for law enforcement. Or having priests turn people in to >> law enforcement. >> >> I don't see where law enforcement has a role to play in ICANN at all. >> >> On 7/27/2010 2:53 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >>> Why is ICANN specifically trying to stack the deck of this Whois group >>> with "law enforcement representatives"? >>> >>> When did the community agree to specify it wanted "law enforcement" in >>> this group (rather than privacy commissioners, for example)? >>> >>> Obviously this is an attempt to create a specific outcome in line with >>> the many requests for more personal information that we've seen coming >>> from law enforcement & IPR collaborations lately (full-court press in >>> Brussels). >>> >>> Ironically, this notice itself is an example of the kind of staff >>> manipulation to create desired policy outcomes that the Accountability >>> and Transparency Review Teams need to hear about in the first place. >>> >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>> *Date: *July 27, 2010 6:01:52 AM PDT >>>> *To: *liaison6c <[log in to unmask] >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>> *Subject: **[liaison6c] Call for Independent Experts, Law Enforcement >>>> Representatives and Global Policy Experts - WHOIS Policy Review (AoC)* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-26jul10-en.htm >>>> Call for Independent Experts, Law Enforcement Representatives and >>>> Global Policy Experts - WHOIS Policy Review (AoC) >>>> >>>> 26 July 2010 >>>> >>>> Deadline: 6 September 2010 - 23:59 UTC >>>> >>>> The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four >>>> key ICANN objectives, namely: >>>> >>>> Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global >>>> Internet users; >>>> Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; >>>> Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; >>>> WHOIS policy. >>>> In line with the Affirmation provisions, the WHOIS Policy Review >>>> (WIR) is to be objectively performed by a Review Team composed of: >>>> >>>> Volunteer Community Members representing the relevant Supporting >>>> Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN; >>>> ICANN CEO (or designated nominee); >>>> GAC Chair (or designated nominee); >>>> Representatives of Law Enforcement >>>> Global Policy Experts; and >>>> Independent experts. >>>> The composition of this Review Team shall be jointly determined by >>>> the CEO of ICANN - Mr. Rod Beckstrom - and Chair of the GAC - Mrs. >>>> Heather Dryden (in consultation with GAC Members). >>>> >>>> Whereas a Call for Applicants for volunteer RT Members was launched >>>> on June 1, ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a >>>> position of Independent Expert, Law Enforcement Representative or >>>> Global Policy Expert on the WHOIS Policy Review Team. >>>> >>>> Please refer to the WHOIS Policy Review - Call for Independent >>>> Experts, Law Enforcement Representatives and Global Policy Experts, >>>> Details [PDF, 92 KB] for further information and instructions on the >>>> application process. >>>> >>>> An extensive expertise in the subject under review as well as an >>>> ability to remain fully independent and objective constitute highly >>>> desired requirements for a valid application. >>>> >>>> Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation to >>>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> by 6 >>>> September 2010 - 23:59 UTC. Relevant experience should be clearly >>>> stated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Glen de Saint Géry >>>> GNSO Secretariat >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> http://gnso.icann.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> IP JUSTICE >>> Robin Gross, Executive Director >>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: [log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> >>> >