Hi Avri I'm happy to have a go at incorporating whatever might be "missing" from our Charter.....will be early next week before I get to this I will leave the changes made after GCOT "what nots" as is and ADD anything extra.... Is this the best approach from your perspective? Cheers Rosemary Rosemary Sinclair Managing Director, ATUG Chairman, INTUG T: +61 2 94958901 F: +61 2 94193889 M: +61 413734490 Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Skype: rasinclair Please visit the ATUG website for Updates and Information www.atug.com.au ________________________________ From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 7:16 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: SPAM-LOW: Fwd: For Action - Update on GNSO SG and Constituency Charter Activities Hi, Yet more considerations for charters, both of constituencies and stakeholder groups. This is the Staff's take on what we must all do. I will be reviewing the NCSG approved charter that is currently being negotiated with the Board to make sure we have dealt with all of the Staff's mandates either by showing where in the charter they are covered or by discussing the need for those requirements with the board members. for the most part the Staff mandates do stem from Board and GNSO documents, but we must always be careful to read the originals to make sure the Staff interpretation is indeed a reasonable interpretation. In those case where it might not be in accordance with an NCSG interpretation, it will be necessary to take the issue to the Board for clarification. It will also be necessary for the NCUC to deal with this in its charter as well as any of the prospective constituencies or interest group who wish to be chartered. On a personal note, this whole charter rigmarole is tiresome. I do feel like I am carrying rocks up the hill every day, just to find them back at the bottom the next day when I next approach the task. As several of you argued in the past, the bureaucracy being imposed on us is excruciating. Reading this document, I really feel the effort to stop the creeping bureaucracy from devouring us all has failed. a. Begin forwarded message: From: Robert Hoggarth <[log in to unmask]> Date: 10 August 2010 15:41:12 EDT To: Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>, Chris Chaplow <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, Marilyn Cade <[log in to unmask]>, Mason Cole <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>, Rosemary Sinclair <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, "Metalitz, Steven" <[log in to unmask]>, Tony Holmes <[log in to unmask]> Cc: David Olive <[log in to unmask]>, Glen de Saint Géry <[log in to unmask]>, Ken Bour <[log in to unmask]> Subject: For Action - Update on GNSO SG and Constituency Charter Activities Dear Avri, Chris, David, Debra, J. Scott, Marilyn, Mason, Milton, Rafik, Robin, Rosemary, Sarah, Steve and Tony: Over the coming months leading toward the ICANN Cartagena meeting, the consideration of charter documents for the various GNSO Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies will be an important topic. Not only will the Board be considering high-level reviews of the various Stakeholder Group and Constituency charter documents, but there are also specific operating procedure changes that have been adopted by the GNSO Council that will necessitate conforming charter changes by each GNSO Stakeholder Group and Constituency to help them take advantage of new Council voting options and processes. The attached 20-page document contains a transmittal/overview letter and several appendices related to both Stakeholder Group and Constituency charter drafting activities. In your capacity as GNSO organizational leaders, please review the material and pass it along to the appropriate individuals who have responsibility for managing your organization's charter documents. Ken Bour and I are happy to work with you and/or anyone in your respective organizations to assist with clarification of the accompanying materials. Best regards, Rob Hoggarth