Does this mean *all* search engines with links will be shut down anytime, including 'Big G'? On 11/27/10, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Why complained earlier on expectations that cash strapped ccTLDs especially > in Africa/developing cannot afford parallel servers, databases and time > costs to enforce third parties IP/copyrights/trademark etc interests. It > somehow 'feels' safer NOT to register a .com now? > > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> The latest info that I've seen is that Verisign assigned new DNS servers >> at the Registry level, and then locked the domain so that even the >> Registrar >> can't update it. So now it looks like it may have been VeriSign who >> "seized" them. No word on ICANN's role in this situation, if any. >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: >> >> So was it ICANN that actually did the seizing? >> >> On 11/26/2010 7:25 PM, Michael Haffely wrote: >> >> The concerning part about the report from today is that the domain owner >> never received any complaint or due process before the domains were >> seized. >> It appears that no Cease and Desist, warrant, suit, or other criminal >> complaint was brought up before the domain was taken. What if (for an >> example) this behavior is taken up by the Patent and Copyright "trolls". >> What happens to an individual/nonprofit/organization when they have their >> domain yanked out from under them? >> >> If ICANN is to seize domains from their rightful owners by demand of a >> law >> enforcement agency we need to have a clear, *rapid* appeals process to >> prevent abuse by corporations, law enforcement agencies, and governments. >> >> >> -Mike H. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Andrew A. Adams <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Very similar moves are happening in the UK, with Nominet (UK non-profit >>> with >>> the .uk (and .gb) country-code delegation) engaging with the UK's SOCA >>> (Serious and Organised Crime Agency *) to remove 1200 "sites engaged in >>> selling counterfeit goods" recently and now doing a more explicit deal >>> with >>> the police to take down the DNS registration for sites "alleged to be >>> involved in criminal activity". >>> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/25/nominet_crime/ >>> >>> (*) The SOCA is a rather dodgy organisation, IMHO. When it was set up >>> the >>> then home secrewtary made a big thing of it not being actually police >>> and >>> therefore not bound by the requirements that the police have to respect >>> the >>> human rights of citizens. THat's a recipe for a secret police operating >>> extra-judicially and here we see exactly that kind of approach. >>> >>> I am very worried by these kinds of moves. Zittrain's "The Future of the >>> Internet" and Mueller's "Networks and States" concerns about censorship >>> becoming the norm not the exception online seem to be coming true. While >>> I'm >>> not in favour of criminals having free reign, the trouble is that all >>> the >>> hard won freedoms such as due process, balance of rights, etc. seem to >>> be >>> being thrown out in the digital domain. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Professor Andrew A Adams [log in to unmask] >>> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration, and >>> Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics >>> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan http://www.a-cubed.info/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> IP JUSTICE >> Robin Gross, Executive Director >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> > > > -- > regards, > > Alex Gakuru > http://www.mwenyeji.com > Hosting, surprise yourself! > -- regards, Alex Gakuru http://www.mwenyeji.com Hosting, surprise yourself!