I just spoke to the owner of torrent-finder.com on the phone. He has not been contacted by any branch of the US Govt. and still has an open ticket with GoDaddy who have not been able to help him in any way regarding the status of his domain name. He also told me that he called them on the phone, and stated that their staff seemed to be "lost" regarding what happened. I am still confused about what is happening with the so-called seizures (or possible hoaxes). This article in the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/technology/27torrent.html?_r=2) states that a spokesperson for ICE said that there HAVE been a number of court-orders and warrants for seizures of domain names without specifying which domain names she was referring to. She also continues to explain that there is an ongoing investigation in the matter. Perhaps they are investigating who is pretending to be perpetuating this act in ICE's and DHS's name??? Amr Elsadr M.D. Chief Operating Officer Tele-Med International http://www.telemedint.net Tel: +2(023)534-6098 Fax: +2(023)534-6029 -----Original Message----- From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jorge Amodio Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More Everybody keeps reporting about something (a court order) but nobody is showing it, and on the ICE, NIPR, or related sites there is no clear indication that the reports are accurate. Until I find/see a copy of the court order this thing looks very bogus. All reports indicated that what was seized is the domain name, then in that case the delegation for that particular domain should most probably point to a DHS or similar related site. Actually that page is located in a hosting service provider (Caronet Managed Hosting, own by Carolina Internet in North Carolina, US), very unlikely that DHS will use Caronet as a hosting proviider. Now if the ICE actions were real, they should have seized also torrent-finder.info, some may argue that .info is not under USG jurisdiction, let me remind you that Afilias is also incorporated in the Horsham, PA, US, and the site is hosted by a company in Dallas Texas also under US courts jurisdiction. It's obviously concerning when the IP community gets overreaching powers, but is also concerning that others claim the selling/distributing/manufacturing of counterfeit/fake/stolen stuff (be it music, software, hardware, or armani underware) is an expression of free-speech. I hope we start to see some serious analysis and reports about what happen in this particular case and stop the flow of incorrect or bogus information. Cheers Jorge 2010/11/28 Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>: > Well that is getting more fuzzy, http://j.mp/f8EClO people pretending that > is. Elaborated hoax > > Rafik