On Nov 27, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Alex Gakuru wrote:
> Does this mean *all* search engines with links will be shut down
> anytime, including 'Big G'?
>
> On 11/27/10, Alex Gakuru <
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>> Why complained earlier on expectations that cash strapped ccTLDs especially
>> in Africa/developing cannot afford parallel servers, databases and time
>> costs to enforce third parties IP/copyrights/trademark etc interests. It
>> somehow 'feels' safer NOT to register a .com now?
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robin Gross <
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>>
>>> The latest info that I've seen is that Verisign assigned new DNS servers
>>> at the Registry level, and then locked the domain so that even the
>>> Registrar
>>> can't update it. So now it looks like it may have been VeriSign who
>>> "seized" them. No word on ICANN's role in this situation, if any.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>>
>>> So was it ICANN that actually did the seizing?
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2010 7:25 PM, Michael Haffely wrote:
>>>
>>> The concerning part about the report from today is that the domain owner
>>> never received any complaint or due process before the domains were
>>> seized.
>>> It appears that no Cease and Desist, warrant, suit, or other criminal
>>> complaint was brought up before the domain was taken. What if (for an
>>> example) this behavior is taken up by the Patent and Copyright "trolls".
>>> What happens to an individual/nonprofit/organization when they have their
>>> domain yanked out from under them?
>>>
>>> If ICANN is to seize domains from their rightful owners by demand of a
>>> law
>>> enforcement agency we need to have a clear, *rapid* appeals process to
>>> prevent abuse by corporations, law enforcement agencies, and governments.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Mike H.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Andrew A. Adams <
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>>>
>>>> Very similar moves are happening in the UK, with Nominet (UK non-profit
>>>> with
>>>> the .uk (and .gb) country-code delegation) engaging with the UK's SOCA
>>>> (Serious and Organised Crime Agency *) to remove 1200 "sites engaged in
>>>> selling counterfeit goods" recently and now doing a more explicit deal
>>>> with
>>>> the police to take down the DNS registration for sites "alleged to be
>>>> involved in criminal activity".
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/25/nominet_crime/
>>>>
>>>> (*) The SOCA is a rather dodgy organisation, IMHO. When it was set up
>>>> the
>>>> then home secrewtary made a big thing of it not being actually police
>>>> and
>>>> therefore not bound by the requirements that the police have to respect
>>>> the
>>>> human rights of citizens. THat's a recipe for a secret police operating
>>>> extra-judicially and here we see exactly that kind of approach.
>>>>
>>>> I am very worried by these kinds of moves. Zittrain's "The Future of the
>>>> Internet" and Mueller's "Networks and States" concerns about censorship
>>>> becoming the norm not the exception online seem to be coming true. While
>>>> I'm
>>>> not in favour of criminals having free reign, the trouble is that all
>>>> the
>>>> hard won freedoms such as due process, balance of rights, etc. seem to
>>>> be
>>>> being thrown out in the digital domain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Professor Andrew A Adams
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>>>> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration, and
>>>> Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
>>>> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>
>> Alex Gakuru
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> regards,
>
> Alex Gakuru
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