Chér Baudouin, democracy without transparency is not democracy at all.

If you have questions and doubts, you should voice them and these should be answered. If these do not have an answer, then something is wrong.

I have considered all the arguments in these threads and for me it is not clear that NOT-FOR-PROFIT is a subgroup of NON-COMMERCIAL.

Many not-for-profit organizations have a commercial nature, although they do not seek profit that can be distributed to their shareholders.

Red Cross, for one. How can one distinguish Red Cross from, let us say, Vodafone? Probably the single point of distinction is that Red Cross does accept volunteer work (and Vodafone does not). And of course, the types of services they render (but this distinguishes all other organizations, right?). Yet, they only render services to the communities that are their target if and when someone funds these services. 

Not to take it too far, for me, right now, it probably makes sense to have a NOT-FOR-PROFIT constituency, but not in the scope of the NCUC.

Best regards,

Nuno Garcia

On 9 November 2010 08:02, Baudouin SCHOMBE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
hello
Who are the members, non-governmental, non profit ...? Where can I get information about this new group? I am so far confused. Should we say that these are the consequences of the principles of democracy?


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2010/11/8 Amber Sterling <[log in to unmask]>

Dear Alex,

NPOC members have absolutely no intention of undermining anyone's outreach efforts.

Kind regards,
Amber

Amber Sterling
Senior Intellectual Property Specialist
Association of American Medical Colleges


-----Original Message-----
From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency

Dear Amber,

Would the expected "Eastern and Western Africa" organisations be Red
Cross/Crescent type only? This is important for me know in my capacity
as NCUC Africa representative considering that I have outreached and
recruited a number throughout all of Africa during my tenure. And I do
not wish have some surprise "defections" - for lack of a better word.

regards,

Alex

2010/11/3 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
<[log in to unmask]>:
> Amber
>
> I would be also thankful if you could reply to my questions.
>
> Would it be possible to provide a list of such waiting organisations? And would it be also possible to specifiy your outreach  activities in currently under-represented regions. I am in particular interested what you have done in Eastern Europa, Central Asia and Eastern and Western Africa.
>
> wolfgang
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: Amber Sterling [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Gesendet: Mi 03.11.2010 14:48
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am compiling a list of questions posed regarding the NPOC charter and
> will respond later today... the issue about whether or not the NPOC
> would include "various national Chamber of Commerce or the International
> Chamber of Commerce" is a non-starter.  The proposed NPOC would be a
> constituency within the NCSG and therefore must meet NCSG membership
> requirements.
>
> Kind regards,
> Amber
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Carlos A. Afonso
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:18 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Petition to form a new ICANN constituency
>
> The way it is phrased now, yes, sure.
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 11/03/2010 10:58 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> On 3 Nov 2010, at 08:43, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>>
>>> The mission statement is phrased to involve *any* non-profit,
> including business associations (non-profits which defend commercial
> interests),
>>
>>
>> Would this include the various national Chamber of Commerce or the
> International Chamber of Commerce?
>>
>> Though the ICC is currently part of the BC, should we look forward to
> them joining the NPOC?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> a.
>