> Please Andrews, have you a family? woman and child (ren)? Utterly irrelevant to this discussion. It's called "ad hominem" where you attack the person not the argument, and it's just as bad to place greater weight on their arguments because of their background, except where their background is so heavily relevant that it lends them greater authority because of their knowledge, not because one grants them greater weight because of their emotions. I am against censorship, against the creation of thought crimes, against the restrictions of what people choose to do with their bodies (but also against people being forced to do things with their bodies that they do not agree to). My arguments and views follow from that position and that is all you need to know on here. Whether I am homosexual or heterosexual, man or woman, back, white, yellow, red or mixed, should not matter in these discussions. IMO, we need to create a society where no one is ashamed of their bodies nor is forced to display it for others7 pleasure as the _only_ way they can survive. The anti-sexual material lobby almost universally regards all displays as degrading or in some way negative. I do not, and the fact that countries like Sweden have the highest measurements of sexual equality and some of the lowest poverty rates, alongside the highest literacy rates and the most openness about both nudity and sex provides me with strong evidence that sexual material is not the automatic negative or degrading thing that the anti-sexual material lobby make it out to be. Beside all that, where do you draw the line? A foot fetishist finds pictures of women's feet in high heels sexually alluring. Should we therefore ban any and all pictures of women's feet. Sexual allure is in the eyes of the beholder and the only material that should be banned is that which can be demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt that either harm was caused in its production, or harm directly follows (without intervening choice) from its "consumption". -- Professor Andrew A Adams [log in to unmask] Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration, and Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan http://www.a-cubed.info/