Hi meda, yes.,. I agree with you for this opinion. the same with nicholas said before. I support this. Regards, Dwi Dear Dwi, > > > Many aspects of Internet Governance do not lie within the mission of > ICANN. > > For instance, ICANN is not responsible for content on the Internet. > > Protecting our children from websites containing offensive or harmful > content > > is a concern for all of society. Issues of content, though, are not within > ICANN’s charter and have nothing to do with the interconnectivity of > single > global Internet. > > Propose for controlling content through special top-level domains!? > > But the laws defining what constitutes harmful or offensive content vary > from > > country to country, and even within a country or a culture. > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Dwi Elfrida Martina S < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Dear Caroline, >> >> I am totally agree with you. as woman I feel that my my identity, my >> pride, my price decrease to the lowest level, when I saw another woman >> explore their sexuality in internet.sometimes I feel that woman in the >> porn site is not different with animal, even animal can do better than >> human, animal still keep their sex activity in good order, keep it as >> intimacy and private right and never explore it through internet. >> >> nevertheless, when I say that I'll support .xxx as legal TLD for porn >> site, because I think it will be used as central for porn sites,so >> easier >> to control dissemination of pornography through internet. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Dwi >> >> >> > Dear Nuno, >> > >> > >> > Maybe not, but I do think your views that one should not take a moral >> > stand on pornography or anything else are- >> > >> > and you in all honesty allude to that- tainted by who you are, and >> > probably by the fact you're a man. >> > >> > >> > You don't feel it in your guts like I may, as a woman, that it >> > actually is a violation of the bill of rights the way women ( AND MEN >> > actually!) >> > >> > are treated and portrayed in pornographic material and the impact >> > such material has on those viewing it, >> > >> > especially those with psychological difficulties, not to mention kids! >> > >> > >> > At some point, not seeing it as a problem that this material is >> > freely accessible to anyone in the name of ' moral neutrality' is >> > equal to >> > >> > endorsing free access to this controversial material. >> > >> > > Pretending domain names do NOT have a moral, political and >> > sociological impact is akin to digging your head in the sand. >> > >> > > Pretending education will suffice to offset this unlimited freedom >> > of publishing online material is naive. >> > >> > >> > Otherwise why not give us all guns to defend ourselves, just in >> > case, and just educate us all NOT to use them to kill >> > >> > those we dont get along with? >> > >> > >> > >> > I feel there should be a .xxx extension, and that all porn should be >> > made to use that and only that, by law, >> > >> > just the way this material is not accessible to all in the physical >> > world. >> > >> > Make the techies make that possible, dont let them tell us it's not " >> > technically feasible" just because they dont care about >> > >> > controling access to it. >> > >> > >> > Best' >> > >> > Caroline >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Le 14 janv. 11 à 10:49, Nuno Garcia a écrit : >> > >> >> I hope that in the end I do not sound like a Hulstler or Playboy >> >> stockholder or subscriber (I am neither of these), but this is >> >> really what I believe in, and probably my opinion is relevant for >> >> the mailing list. >> >> >> >> On 14 January 2011 03:00, Dwi Elfrida Martina S >> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> hi rudy, >> >> >> >> >> >> (snipped) >> >> >> >> I agree with you, there is no country who already TOTALLY success >> >> to do >> >> process 'filter'. But, still we have to do our best to place >> >> "pornography" >> >> in good order, means there is certain regulation, term & condition. >> >> so, we >> >> can protect country from decreasing of morality:) >> >> >> >> As I think we have made clear from previous statements, Morality >> >> (as well as public order) ARE NOT an issue that concerns this >> >> constituency and these considerations should therefore be left out >> >> of discussion and encouraged to be left of all the discussions in >> >> ICANN. >> >> >> >> (long parenthesis: I'm sure Dwi was formulating a wish for its own >> >> country, and it this case, it's perfectly ok to do so. I must >> >> recall the list that Morality is an extremelly complex issue, much >> >> more than paedophilia, which is generally defined as crime in most >> >> western and southern countries, but, in contrast, it is indulged by >> >> some other countries (e.g. asian), and was not at all a crime >> >> before 1950 in most of the countries I know. When these issues dig >> >> deep in our cultural backgrounds and in our religious or belief >> >> points of view, it is best to rely on the system of values that we >> >> know is transversal to all Mankind and are best described in the >> >> Charter for Human Rights, that I think best summarizes the values >> >> we must guide for. End of long parenthesis.) >> >> >> >> In conclusion, and having the Charter for Human Rights as a working >> >> bench, I say that the arguments for discussing this or that issue >> >> (but not for the .XXX which is long due), should never be issues on >> >> liberty, or censorship, let alone competencies or policies for >> >> governments. >> >> >> >> We, as an informed and knowledgeable community, must put forward >> >> our opinions having in view the larger and greater good of our >> >> fellow Internet users, oblivious to where they sit in working days >> >> or in holidays or in Holy days. All of us deserve an Internet that >> >> _does_ _not_ _limit_ our rights as persons and promotes the values >> >> engraved in the Charter for Human Rights. >> >> >> >> We cannot say much regarding the different civilizational issues of >> >> different countries. For me, I know that in my country we still >> >> have a long way to go. But this is my belief, probably some of my >> >> fellow citizens do not agree with me, and therefore this is not an >> >> issue to discuss here. >> >> >> >> I have the greatest of respects for all cultures, religions and >> >> civilizations, and I try hard to not let my personal beliefs to >> >> stand in the way of my professional beliefs, so I expect others to >> >> do the same. >> >> >> >> Of course, I stand perfectly aware that, as Ortega y Gasset once >> >> said, I am myself and my circumstance, and thus my points of view >> >> will always be tainted by the fact that I was born and raised here. >> >> >> >> So to conclude, for me the purpose of this constituency is not to >> >> place pornography or capitalism or comunism or _______ (fill in >> >> with you word of choice) into order. >> >> >> >> It is to make sure that we provide ICANN with valueable and wise >> >> opinions. And we should do our best to do so. For our own good and >> >> the benefit of all mankind. >> >> >> >> I leave you all with two thoughts, one from Ben Franklin who once >> >> said "He who gives up a liberty to achieve a temporary security >> >> deserves neither and will loose both" (and there are plenty of >> >> historical examples of this), and the other, from a greek >> >> philosopher whose name I cannot remember "the best way to prevent a >> >> damage to society is to educate the children". >> >> >> >> With my personal and sincere excuses if my points of view have >> >> offended anyone (was not my intention), I wish you all a nice week >> >> end, >> >> >> >> Nuno Garcia >> > >> > Frenchparents.net - Bilingual online community in San Francisco >> > http://www.frenchparents.net >> > >> > InternationalParents - Social network in 30 cities worldwide >> > Le premier réseau international des familles futées >> > The first international network for smart parents >> > http://www.internationalparents.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >