Good suggestions as well. I did not find their names in the registration list though (as of March 01). --c.a. On 03/02/2011 07:40 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Will Tan tin-wee or James Tseng be there? > They are both Chinese, deeply involved in IDN stuff. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:41 PM >> To: Milton L Mueller >> Cc: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program >> >> No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow >> things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory >> and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I >> understand, will be in San Fran on time. >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>> Why not put Carlos on the panel? >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of >>>> William Drake >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event >>>> program >>>> >>>> Carlos, >>>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear people, >>>>> >>>>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the >>>> >>>> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago. >>>> >>>>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the >>>>> "developing countries". >>>> >>>> Again, >>>> >>>> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her >>>> flight doesn't get in on time. >>>> >>>> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs >> more >>>> time to see if she can make it. I just spoke with her again here in >>>> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday. >>>> >>>> 3. If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else. We need >>>> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics: >>>> >>>>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and >> promoted >>>>> the participation of developing country stakeholders? >>>> >>>> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at >>>> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG >>>> that's been working on options to help developing country and other >>>> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for >>>> new gTLDs. Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak >>>> about that and related. There've also been the parallel discussions >>>> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG >>>> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led. And >>>> the conversations around this with board members and others at the >>>> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries, >>>> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al >>>> around these issues. >>>> >>>>> How do developing >>>>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN >>>>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their >>>>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental >>>>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN? >>>> >>>> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week >>>> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've >>>> organized on development agenda issues. I asked Markus Kummer to >> join >>>> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat >>>> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the >>>> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand >>>> experience with. >>>> >>>>> What do these dynamics mean for the >>>>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users? >>>> >>>> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25 >>>> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions. >>>> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move >>>> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in >>>> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good >> framework >>>> for discussion. >>>> >>>>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from >>>>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course), >>>>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th? >>>> >>>> Thanks. Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work >>>> let's look at options. >>>>> >>>>> I understand it should be a person who is closely >>>>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil >>>>> society's perspective. >>>> >>>> Yup >>>>> >>>>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the >>>>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people >>>>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure >>>>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of >>>> names. >>>>> >>>>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered >>>> participants: >>>>> >>>>> >> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%2 >> 0%2 >>>>> 0%0A >>>>> >>>>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :) >>>> >>>> I told you I was working on it. But ok, this panel doesn't have to be >>>> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people >>>> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance >>>> would of course be welcome. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Bill >>> >