On 28 Jun 2011, at 03:18, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Rosemary:
> Can you explain to me how you handle the CSG/NCSG problem? If the answer is "CC is only applying to NCSG" I will not consider it an acceptable answer and will oppose the formation of this constituency.
>
> I will say that in our discussions with ALAC most of the people we talked to agreed that it made more sense to advance a consumer agenda than it did to form a consumer constituency.
>
> --MM
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:
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>> Rosemary Sinclair
>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:41 PM
>> To:
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>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Results of the Chartering process
>>
>> Hi Avri
>>
>> I'm prepared to try to progress the Consumer Constituency - having
>> thought about Milton's idea from NCSG Constituency Day, I still think we
>> need to move forward with a formal constituency. I'll get on to this
>> when I'm back in Sydney next week.
>>
>> I'll go back to the doc we have in NCSG EC and pick up that process now
>> NCSG Charter has progressed.
>>
>> I have also spoken to Mary briefly about an Academic Constituency - more
>> relevant to my new role - I'll have a go at drafting the Mission ...
>>
>> One other point that came up in NCSG Constit Day - when we were chatting
>> about the difference in focus between NCUC and the proposed Consumer
>> focused Constituency...it occurred to me later that we may have a
>> communications gap because of the small number of people on the NCSG-EC
>> where proposed Charters are reviewed....perhaps we need to post proposed
>> Charters where whole of NCSG can review them...even while the NCSG EC is
>> focusing more closely on the details and the process????
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Rosemary
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>> Doria [
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>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:02 AM
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>> Subject: Results of the Chartering process
>>
>> At the ICANN41 meeting, in addition to the major decisions regarding the
>> new gTLD process the Board took several several decisions related to the
>> the NCSG, the NPOC and the constituency process within the GNSO.
>>
>> The specific Board resolutions:
>>
>> - NPOC Charter
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.5
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.5.rationale
>>
>> NPOC charter approved by the Board:
>>
http://gnso.icann.org/improvements/npoc-charter-redacted-07dec10-en.pdf
>>
>> I extend a welcome to NPOC as the first new constituency within GNSO
>> since the beginning of the GNSO. Now that the NPOC has been created
>> and according to the rules of the NCSG, each NCSG member is entitled to
>> belong to three constituencies with the NCSG, I recommend that NCSG
>> members take a look at the new constituency and see whether it is a fit
>> and consider joining our new constituency. Please note, that will all
>> constituencies must adhere to the membership rules of the NCSG,
>> Constituencies can imposes additional requirements - so membership in
>> the NPOC or NCUC is still determined by the charters and membership of
>> those constituencies.
>>
>> - NCSG Charter
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.6
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.6.rationale
>>
>> Charter that was approved by the Board
>>
http://gnso.icann.org/improvements/proposed-ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf
>>
>> According to our new charter, we now need to approve the new charter. I
>> will start that process as soon as possible.
>>
>> - Constituency Recognition Process
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.7
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-24jun11-en.htm#1.7.rationale
>>
>> Process:
>>
http://gnso.icann.org/improvements/newco-recognition-process-10jan11-
>> en.pdf
>>
>> Now that a method for starting new Constituencies has been created, I
>> suggest that the various interests within NCSG look at whether they wish
>> to create any new constituencies within NCSG. While the NCSG charter
>> dictates that council seats and the NCSG chair are elected by the NCSG
>> membership at large, a lot of resources within the GNSO, such as Nomcom
>> representation and representation on the various NCSG committees.
>>
>> - The GNSO notification
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder
>> <
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>> Date: 24 June 2011 13:00:35 GMT+08:00
>> To: "
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>> <
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>> Subject: [council] Adoption of GNSO charters and new GNSO constituencies
>>
>> Councillors,
>>
>> Just as an FYI, here is an extract from the transcript of today's Board
>> meeting:
>>
>>>> PETER DENGATE THRUSH: WE BEGIN WITH A CONSENT AGENDA, AND FOR THOSE
>> WHO ARE NEW TO THIS PROCESS THIS IS A THING BY WHICH A NUMBER OF REPORTS
>> AND THINGS HAVE BEEN WORKED UP THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROCESSES AND COME TO
>> THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
>> THE BOARD HAS DISCUSSED EACH OF THESE ITEMS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
>> UNDERSTANDS THE CONTENTS AND HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE ANY ITEM
>> FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR PLACEMENT ON THE FULL JEANTD IF IT'S THOUGHT
>> APPROPRIATE THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IS REQUIRED ON THESE ITEMS.
>> JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION THEY INCLUDE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, ADOPTING
>> CHARTERS FOR THE GNSO, A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW CHARTER IN THE GNSO,
>> APPROVAL OF A CONSTITUENCY RECOGNITION PROCESS, CHANGES TO ADVISORY
>> COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIPS, CHANGING THE FORMULATION OF THE NOMINATING SLIDE
>> IN REGARD TO THE KEAK SLOT, MEETINGS NEXT YEAR IN LATIN AMERICA AND
>> EUROPE. AND THEN THANKING DEPARTING. AND THANKING OUR HOSTS, AND
>> THANKING YOU OUR MEETING PRAVERNTS PARTICIPANTS.
>> SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO MOVE FROM THE CHAIR THE ADOPTION OF THE
>> CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A SECONDER FOR THAT?
>> THANK YOU, GEORGE.
>> SO THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS NOW PUT.
>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
>> (HANDS RAISED).
>>>> PETER DENGATE THRUSH: THANK YOU.
>> ANY OPPOSED?
>> ANY ABSTENTIONS?
>> CARRIED.
>> THANK YOU.
>>
>> The consent agenda items that are of particular relevance to the GNSO
>> were the following:
>>
>>
>> 1. From the SIC - New GNSO Constituency Recognition Process 2. From
>> the SIC - Permanent Charters of the GNSO's Commercial Stakeholders Group
>> 3. From the SIC - Permanent Charters of the GNSO's Non Commercial
>> Stakeholders Group 4. From the SIC - Proposal for a Not-for-Profit
>> Operational Concerns Constituency in the GNSO
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Stéphane
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