Bill, Noted and thanks... Alain On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:08 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Alain > > You misunderstood me. I didn't say I was puzzled by the terminology "Not > for Profit Operational Concerns" per se, having been involved in the > gestation described by Avri. I said I was puzzled as to what that was going > to mean in practice, what distinctive operational concerns the constituency > would focus on that are not of interest to the non-profits in NCUC. To > date, mostly we've heard about trademark protection and related, so the > question was about what distinctive perspective and contribution would be > brought to the broader GNSO agenda. > > Bill > > On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > > > On 19 Oct 2011, at 17:12, Alain Berranger wrote: > > > >> 2) I think Bill Drake - please correct me if I got the wrong speaker - > said he was puzzled by the meaning of the terminology "Not for Profit > Operational Concerns (NPOC)"... In fact, so am I... I recall we had > originally proposed "Not for Profit Organizations Constituency (NPOC)". The > latter was rejected by NCSG-EC. Those on the list who were party to this > "compromise" may explain to the rest of us how that was arrived at and why > that name was chosen? > >> > > > > > > All of the organizations in NCUC are also not for profit organizations. > > So to many at the time, myself included, it looked like a name to try and > one-up the NCUC and somehow claim that you all were the real > not-for-profits. > > > > So it was an agreement, one of several (like the one where the NPOC > Leadership agreed that all NPOC members would apply to join the NCSG prior > to the approval of the constituency and start actually particpating) between > the NCSG-EC and the NPOC Leadership. > > > > It was not imposed by NCSG-EC. But since NPOC already had collateral > materials printed with NPOC (or something like that), we were told that > while they were willing to change the name they wanted to keep the acronym. > Hence, Not for Profit Operational Concerns. > > > > I was lobbying for Non-Commercial Intelectual Property Constituency and > there were some other suggestions (I think Bill had one with the word > charities in it) but NPOC picked the name, and we were all fine with it > since it was sufficiently different from Non Commercial Users Constituency. > > > > avri > > historian (ncuc) > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger