Thanks, Avri. While it's not an obligation to do so, I am happy to volunteer an SOI to the list based on the template - if that would be constructive and a welcome thing to do in the circumstances. Or anyone who's interested can visit my LinkedIn profile which I try to keep up to date: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1110917&trk=tab_pro Maria On 29 October 2011 11:09, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi, > > The SOI is a requirement for all those who participate in an of the Working > Groups or the the g-council itself. So the more people we have represented > in the SOI directory, the better because it means lots of people are > participating in the activities of ICANN. Amber and Konstantinos filed one > because it was required for their respective stints as temporary > replacements for a g-councilor. The paucity of NCSG members listed in the > directory is a direct witness to how few of us participate in WGs. > > We do not, however, have a NCSG Charter requirement for filling out an SOI > as a member of the SG. And I am not sure how well it work out for us to put > SOIs for all of our members, and the members of organizational members, in > the GNSO SOI list. > > But if the NCSG wanted to make filing an SOI a requirement, that would be > interesting discussion. And I suppose the NCSG-EC could implement something > specifically for the NCSG if they wished. It would be relatively easy for > someone to copy the template from the GNSO wiki space and start one in the > NCSG wiki space. > > avri > > > On 29 Oct 2011, at 04:12, Alain Berranger wrote: > > > Thanks Dan, > > > > I would add that a reasonable standard of transparency and participation > would include all NCSG members' SOIs be submitted in the nearest future. It > only takes a few minutes to complete. I notice that Amber and Konstantinos, > our respective Chairs of NPOC and NCUC have completed their SOIs under the > new format and we should all follow their lead. As many NPOC members have > recently joined this discussion group, it would help us understand the web > of relationships and degrees of separation in the NCSG community and their > two constituencies. For new comers, knowing who you are dealing with is > essential. > > > > Cheers, Alain > > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dan Krimm <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > This is a big relief, very happy to hear it. > > > > I'd be even happier to see a post on-list by Amber that NPOC is happy > with > > this outcome. Firsthand public reports are always the "gold standard" > > here, and a very good habit to get into as a matter of course -- just a > > friendly piece of advice about the collective culture here as a way to > > offer a welcoming hand in good faith. > > > > 90% of success in life is simply showing up. For those of us who are not > > able to attend these events in person or even remotely in real time, this > > list is where "showing up" has the broadest reach as well as the > > tangibility and persistence of a written record. It has real and > > unduplicated meaning, and thus it makes a real difference. > > > > So please, take our hand here on-list, and don't be a stranger. This > > public forum is an ineliminable venue for bringing our community > together, > > and should not be discounted. Regular presence here in good faith should > > be factored into any commitment to participate in the SG, especially as a > > leader/representative. This is a fabulous opportunity for a fresh start, > > and for looking forward. > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and > > do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer. > > > > > > > > On Fri, October 28, 2011 11:28 am, Robin Gross wrote: > >> Thank you Milton. I agree it was a worthwhile discussion and we were > able > >> to clarify several misunderstandings and recalibrate expectations > >> regarding the NCSG membership application process so the SG should be > less > >> likely to have these hiccups in the future. > >> > >> Specifically, it was clarified that when new NCSG membership > applications > >> are submitted, they need to be submitted by the organization making the > >> application itself (not the chair of NCUC or NPOC). Although > Konstantinos > >> & Amber (as chairs of NCUC & NPOC) will come up with a membership form > >> that can be submitted to the NCSG-EC and the constituency at the same > >> time. Applications will be responded to by the EC within 2 weeks from > >> submission. The NCSG-EC will conduct its due diligence and verify the > >> applicants and make its decision as agreed in the NCSG charter. > >> > >> So with respect to the recent election results and the handling of > >> membership applications, it was a very productive conversation and I am > >> hopeful that we now have a clearer understanding of how to move forward. > >> Actually, the NCSG Charter, which was agreed to by the NCSG membership, > >> NCUC, NPOC and the ICANN Board proscribes many of the mechanisms and > >> processes that should be followed for administration of the SG. > >> > >> It is my hope and sincere wish that past differences can be put aside > and > >> we can all begin working together in a cooperative and constructive > >> fashion to build a stronger SG that promotes the interests of all > >> noncommercial users of the DNS. NCSG welcomes its new members, > including > >> NPOC members, and is looking forward to working with the participants in > >> the coming months to build a stronger and more diverse SG at ICANN. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Robin Gross > >> NCSG Chair > >> > >> > >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> > >>> Dear members > >>> NCSG EC members, NCUC members and NPOC leadership met in Dakar > yesterday > >>> with the ICANN Ombudsman acting as a neutral mediator. > >>> The meeting focused on future practices for handling new membership > >>> applications; there was and is no talk of undoing the election any > more. > >>> I think we identified some of the misunderstandings and process hiccups > >>> that led to the initial problem and reached an agreement on how to > >>> process membership applications in the future. I'll let Robin Gross, > the > >>> new NCSG Chair, fill you in on the details. > >>> > >>> Milton L. Mueller > >>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies > >>> Internet Governance Project > >>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> IP JUSTICE > >> Robin Gross, Executive Director > >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > >> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: [log in to unmask] > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > > interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > > Skype: alain.berranger > > >