On 10/11/2011 10:06 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: > On 10/11/2011 7:04 AM, Alex Gakuru wrote: >> No court order necessary >> By Kevin Murphy >> 11th October 2011 >> >> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/verisign_asks_for_web_takedown_powers/> >> >> > > Thanks for the heads up Alex. I have some mixed feeling about this as > I am someone who wears two hats. So I'll throw the delema out there > and see what you all think. > > First - as the founder of the Church of Reality and a former employee > of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (sys admin - not lawyer) I and a > fierce defender of free speech and due process, keeping the hands of > governments off the Internet. The Internet is actually considered a > holy object in the Church of Reality as it is the central factor > driving human evolution allowing us to evolve into something that > increases our chances of long term survival, so we can continue to > exist. If you fail to continue to exist then you are no longer part of > reality. > > Then there's my second hat. I also own a spam filtering company where > every day I block millions of emails from people pretending to be > banks and trying to trick you into giving up your login so that > criminals can steal your money. It is a private sector business and I > can instantly block a domain that is clearly committing fraud. So a > domain like wellssfargo.com (note the double S) pretending to be Wells > Fargo Bank is immediately blocked by me Just for some basic clarification: you do not take down a domain - you put an address into a blacklist. And only those servers where someone opted in to use your blacklist (and users downstream) is affected. > - and every other server on the planet who uses my blacklist. You cannot block anything from reaching me. But if VeriSign blocks a .com nobody can reach it. > > Then there's Wikileaks which I support and which most every government > out there wants shut down. > > Just wondering if it would be useful to have some sort of discussion > about this for the sake of clarity. I see this as a big difference. Norbert Klein -- A while ago, I started a new blog: ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia http://www.thinking21.org/ continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia. Norbert Klein [log in to unmask] Phnom Penh / Cambodia