Hi all - just following up on this and thanks to those who responded (on or
off list).

By way of background, the meeting I was attending was organised by Cordaid
and Global Partnership for the Prevention of Armed Conflict (GPPAC). In a
nutshell, they are concerned about the lack of civil society involvement in
UN discussion about counter terrorism policy and developed this three day
event to galvanise interest. 

One part that was a meeting with officials involved in the CTITF. Several
officials attended including one senior human rights adviser and Richard
Barrett (Coordinator of the Analytical Support and Sanctions Committee under
which the internet working group takes place). The dialogue was Chatham
House, but I can give you the flavour. It began with a look at Indonesia and
some brief remarks and then participants took the opportunity to ask
questions.

 

With 20+ participants there was very little time to ask questions in the end
but, in relation to the Internet working group, I raised concerns over
blanket domain name take downs for "extreme" content, the so-called "faith
based filtering" and disproportionate effects on free speech, including on
legitimate sites (one area under discussion) etc. Here the response was that
this was a topic on which governments did not have an agreed approach, but
apparently there are now some regional agreements about counter-terrorism
measures and taking down radical online content among governments who seek
to control content. Also that a main focus of the working group was on "more
speech" and creating alternative narratives. 

The responses were courteous and helpfully descriptive, but no real
substance. For example, there was no response to a question on whether they
were talking with Frank La Rue the Special Rapporteur on Freedom of
Expression who devoted his annual report to FX on the internet - including a
section on government actions in the name of national security which were
taken without due process or against political opponents.. Ironically, I
attended a meeting that same day at the UN where Frank and Rebecca MacKinnon
were guest panellists (did a nice job, too) and Frank mentioned he had been
talking to the CTITF. So!)

 

Ed Flynn, the senior human rights officer for the CTITF, was very keen to
talk and learn more about CSO concerns re the internet. All in all, I would
say the key point was that they heard someone from civil society ask
questions about the topic.

 

The CTITF will have a review next year and the participants have agreed to
collaborate around that review including through contributions to a CSO
background paper -probably for early next year. I think a short briefing
paper on the internet related issues is probably needed for that review -
most of the participants had no knowledge of the issues. Given the NCSG
membership and expertise on issues of law enforcement, the need for due
process, the concern over various national approaches to legislation, if
anyone wants to stay in touch with me about that, please just let me know.
And if you come across any reference to this in the ICANN work programme, do
share.

 

 

Thanks again

 

Joy

 

From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joy
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Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 11:52 p.m.
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Subject: Internet and Counter Terrorism Measures

 

Hi all,

I'm seeking your inputs for a meeting I am having tomorrow with some
officials from UN Counter-Terrorism Implementation Task Force. I am in New
York for a human rights meeting and the organisers have invited some UN
officials to meet with us on this topic. The CTITF has a specific working
group related to the Internet: https://www.un.org/terrorism/internet.shtml
- It produced this report in May
https://www.un.org/terrorism/pdfs/CTITF%20Interagency%20WG%20Compendium-%20L
egal%20
<https://www.un.org/terrorism/pdfs/CTITF%20Interagency%20WG%20Compendium-%20
Legal%20&%20Technical%20Aspects%20WEB.pdf> &%20Technical%20Aspects%20WEB.pdf


I'm wondering if anyone on the list is aware of the CTITF and its work and,
if so, if you have any questions you'd like me to take the opportunity to
ask on your behalf.

Apologies for the late notice but we were not told who the officials were
until late today and I hadn't made this connection.

Cheers

Joy