On Fri, October 14, 2011 2:15 pm, Alain Berranger wrote:
> Hi Dan, we both referred to a balance... I did not say at any cost... I
> spoke of a spectrum... and respecting diverse opinions along that
> spectrum.
> I respect your point of view. I think we need to find a way to minimize
> cybercrime... and make it harder for certain countries to enable the
> hosting
> of cybercriminals.
>
> Best, Alain
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Dan Krimm <
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>
>> Just to take this point on the merits:
>>
>> On Fri, October 14, 2011 12:43 pm, Alain Berranger wrote:
>> > Can we all agree that there is malfeasance on the Web and that it
>> should
>> > be brought down as often and as much as possible?
>>
>> Not necessarily.
>>
>> One of the enduring realities of any real-world law enforcement regime
>> is
>> that perfection is not an option. Either you are going to impugn
>> innocents or you are going to let malfeasance slip through, or some
>> combination of both. The question is one of balance (how many innocents
>> will you impugn in order to catch how many malefactors?), and usually
>> the
>> answer to that in a modern democratic system is called "due process"
>> (and
>> may involve ancillary principles like "innocent until proven guilty"
>> etc.).
>>
>> The statement above constitutes a maximalist policy at the extreme,
>> where
>> innocents will often get caught in the net, creating what might be
>> considered "unintended consequences" -- or even worse, it may provide
>> tools to those who hold power to abuse law enforcement privileges and
>> actively harass innocents, perhaps for political purposes. The
>> innocents
>> that will be most affected by this are the ones without power (i.e.,
>> without money, or friends with money).
>>
>> We should be seeking to extend these principles to the Internet, not to
>> undermine them there.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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>>
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> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,