Milton, Thanks. Has there ever been a study of TLD financial performances? Do you know of any gTLD cost/benefit study? Alain On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Alain**** > > There is no need to apply for a gTLD to “protect” trademarked brand names. > The policy allows one to pre-empt/prevent someone else from registering a > gTLD based on your trademark. In other words, louisvuitton’s refusal to > apply for . louisvuitton does NOT mean that anyone else can apply for it. > **** > > ** ** > > One should apply for a gTLD only if the benefits of having one outweighs > the costs of applying for and operating it. **** > > ** ** > > I also don’t understand the idea that so-called “super generic” terms > should not be claimed by anyone. The idea that having a generic term as a > gTLD is a “license to print money” is factually false, just ask the .jobs > people. This whole idea that TLDs constitute automatic riches is a distorted > but incredibly persistent holdover from the early days, when .com emerged as > the only space for commercial registrations. That experience will not be > repeated, yet so many people’s views of TLD economics is shaped by that > experience. The proliferation of new TLDs radically destroys any such > repetition. **** > > ** ** > > --MM**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Alain Berranger [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:59 PM > *To:* Milton L Mueller > *Cc:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG input on request for special privileges > for Red Cross & International Olympic Committee regarding Internet domains > **** > > ** ** > > HI Milton,**** > > ** ** > > Are we mainly concerned with second level domain names? as trademarked > and/or notorious gTLD names are dealt with: if you want to protect a > valuable resource such as a name - usually trademarked (say Nobel Prize or > Honda or Louis Vuitton or Apple or Red Cross) then the trademark holding > body must apply for a corresponding gTLD, which will be used for primary > purposes say [log in to unmask] However, notoriety of a > given name may not always match the financial robustness needed to apply for > a gTLD, but that will be the exception, no? I'm not sure though. Is gTLD > aiming at a single root or a family of similar roots (hence the suggestion > to stick to strict international treaties nomenclature which I find > interesting but insufficient)? so what happens to related names such as > vuitton or vuitton bags or luis vutton... ICANN cannot substitute for INTA, > WIPO, etc... it must only respect INTA, WIPO, etc... rules and regulations. > **** > > ** ** > > Two hard calls: second level domain names with similar roots and also gTLD > that are "super generic" like .ngo. .intl... which really nobody can claim > ownership to!... but carry the promise of potentially huge revenues and > ICANN inadvertently granting or appearing to grant a monopoly or a license > to print money!**** > > ** ** > > However, a reserve name list approach does not seem the way to go if only > because of issue of "where does one draw the line"? Kafkaesque!!!**** > > ** ** > > So in the end, ICANN deals with gTLDs, lawyers with trademarks... the rest > is open market philosophy in balance with security issues... maybe? > > Is this too simplistic? am I missing something? Your views most > appreciated...**** > > ** ** > > Best, Alain**** > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:* > *** > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > TLD .olympic, .red-cross, .ngo, .iso, .intl, .iata (variant > > .aita), .icao (variant .oaci) and .code should be protected. > > > > Protected from what? > > Since when does someone own .ngo? If so, who? > > Why .intl? Who has rights in that? Why? > > JFC, I believe that the whole attitude here is wrong. I strongly resist the > idea that we can create fiat global property rights in alphanumeric > character strings just because someone on an email list thinks it's a good > idea to "protect" whatever happens to be his or her pet organization. Lets > try to be more systematic and think about long term consequences, clear > rules, etc. > > > --MM**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA**** > > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> > **** > > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca > Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org > Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > Skype: alain.berranger**** > > ** ** > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Trustee, GKP Foundation, www.globalknowledgepartnership.org Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger