On 22 Dec 2011, at 04:24, Adam Peake wrote: > Perhaps push harder against olympic, but give if > have to with assurance of no further creep, must > be written in stone... There is no writing in stone. Every decision brings its own bit of creep. And that is a reason for being very careful. But yes, giving where one must is good advice. But knowing when that is the case is tough. I tend to think we should be removing names, such as ICANN/IANA etc, from the reserved list, not adding them. But we had a WG during the new gTLD PDP that did not make these decisions - either for adding or deleting. So I find all of the efforts to add names now, problematic and to be avoided unless we open up a PDP process that looks at the entire issue again, including all the geo names that ICANN has forced onto the list without a PDP to authorize the action. avri