I agree with Adam, I too have a problem with that part:

"Law enforcement and trademark protection representatives will be granted full access to puntCAT database. An IP white list will be established to provide full access to gather all data associated with any concrete domain name."

First - the Internet is a 0 dimensional universe that is not owned by any one nation. So what does the word "Law Enforcement" mean? American only - or ANY country. Seems to me that it would have to mean any country as all countries are theoretically equal on the Internet.

As the founder of the Church of Reality I'm someone who would be put to death in many countries of the world and I can not be subject to "law enforcement" of countries like Iran. The same is true to a lesser degree of all non-Islamic religions and possibly some version of Islam. I can not be subject to nations who consider my religions blasphemy. 

As to trademark protection - I own the US Registered Trademark on the word "REALITY". Serial Number: 78735626.

http://www.churchofreality.org/wisdom/trademark/

if I had special trademark enforcement powers owning the trademark on REALITY, well, I really don't think you should give me that kind of power. If I control REALITY on the Internet - wouldn't that make me a deity? I don't think that's a good idea.

ICANN and DNS is not about law enforcement, trademark, or intellectual property protection. It's not about protecting people's money. Our mission is to make the Internet work and nothing more.  These issues are outside the scope of our mission and we need to draw a hard bright line and tell these people no.


On 1/21/2012 6:49 PM, Nicolas Adam wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Very sharp cursory look. I also think those points need be raised.

Nicolas

On 1/21/2012 12:33 PM, Timothe Litt wrote:
I had a cursory look at the supporting documents for this.
(http://www.icann.org/en/registries/rsep/puntcat-cat-request-05oct11-en.pdf)

In general, I think that the request moves practice in the right direction.

However, I am somewhat concerned by the following language:

"Law enforcement and trademark protection representatives will be granted
full access to
puntCAT database. An IP white list will be established to provide full
access to gather all
data associated with any concrete domain name."

("IP" clearly means "IP address" if you read the whole document.)

A) What is a "trademark protection representative", and why are they granted
equal access to the privacy-protected data of natural persons as law
enforcement?

B) Why can't they use the webform proxy for contacting the domain owner, or
present a case to law enforcement for access if the owner is unresponsive?

C) It also seems that both have the ability to troll thru the database at
will for any purpose, without cause, judicial review or documenting when and
why private information is accessed.

D) Note that this ability is based on IP address - not an X.509 certificate,
password or any other user-specific security mechanism.  Hence is is
susceptible to IP spoofing, and access is not traceable to the individual
accessing the data.  This makes it difficult (impossible?) to hold anyone
accountable for misuse of these privileges.

E) Also, disclosure is described as "opt-in (default option)" - as the
following language in the document makes clear, privacy is not the default
and must be requested.  This is not consistent with maximizing privacy, and
potentially introduces race conditions if establishing the privacy option is
not atomic with registering a domain.  For natural persons, privacy should
be the default.

Thus, although this is a positive step in the direction of protecting the
privacy of natural persons, there is room for improvement.

I leave to those more experienced in the politics of ICANN the political
question of whether to take what's on offer now and fight the next battle
later, or to raise these points in our comment on the current request.


Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
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This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,
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-----Original Message-----
From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wendy
Seltzer
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] .CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes - call for public
comments

.CAT proposes to revise its Registry agreement to support withholding of
some WHOIS data by individuals who opt out. It will not offer this opt-out
to legal persons.

I propose that NCSG support this amendment, with a simple: "NCSG supports
the availability of WHOIS privacy options for natural persons.
Accordingly, we support puntCAT's proposed amendment."

--Wendy

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [council] .CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes - call for public comments
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:08:05 -0800
From: Glen de Saint Géry<[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>

http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-20jan12-en.htm
.CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes

Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 20 January2012

Categories/Tags: Contracted Party Agreements

Purpose (Brief):

ICANN is opening today the public comment period for the Fundacio puntCAT's,
request to change its Whois according to EU data protection legislation. The
public comment period will be closed on 3 March 2012.

The .cat registry, submitted a Registry Service Evaluation Process
(RSEP) on August 2011.

At this time, ICANN has conducted a preliminary review in accordance with
the Registry Services Evaluation Policy and process set forth at
http://www.icann.org/registries/rsep/rsep.html. ICANN's preliminary review
(based on the information provided) did not identify any significant
competition, security, or stability issues.

The implementation of the request requires an amendment to the .cat Registry
Agreement signed 23 September 2005. This public forum requests comments
regarding the proposed amendment.
Public Comment Box Link:
http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/cat-whois-changes-18jan12-en.htm

Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat
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