Hi Maria, Thanks for your wise reminder. I agree with you. BTW, I did not know about Joy's effort to draft a NCSG mission statement. Without too much malice, how can we have a charter without a mission statement? or we do have one (excuse my ignorance) and Joy is drafting an update? Maybe we can discuss before San José? Can NCUC and NPOC actually share a joint mission statement? In any case I volunteer to work with Joy on this task. Jo, let me know how I can contribute. Alain On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Maria Farrell <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Thanks for the link. It is of great concern, though I'm not sure it's a > close fit with NCSG's core issues. Is the connection that the US Red Cross > is a member of NCSG? > > Sarah - we've not met, and I know an email to a discussion list is perhaps > not the most nuanced place to discuss these issues. However, I believe the > NCSG discuss list is not the venue for incendiary comments such as > "Population control?", which imply murderous intent on the part of NGOs in > developing countries. You are of course entitled to your personal view that > NGOs are ineffective or even iniquitous, but I do not see how that opinion > is constructive within this forum. What possible relevance does this have > for developing noncommercial input to ICANN's GNSO policy development > process? > > I hesitate to confront this openly on-list, because of the almost > inevitable waste of time and effort that may ensue. However, when shared > lists fail to stay on-topic and distribute trollish comments, it drowns out > reasonable voices and signals to potential contributors that they will not > be heard. Think what we could accomplish on developing inputs to current > ICANN policy issues with the same resources. > > So rather than a long, heated thread on a topic of high concern but low > relevance, can we please consider directing our efforts towards current, > real policy issues of importance to the NCSG? > > Currently outstanding are requests for people to volunteer on the drafting > team for the charter on domain name locking and the UDRP, Joy's efforts to > draft a mission statement for the NCSG, calls for comments on the Draft > Integrated Issues Report on IDN Variant Issues Project, and a just-expired > request for individual NCSG responses on the JAS issue. We also have a > policy call next Monday, 16 Jan. For my part, the Nominating Committee > application period for leadership positions has recently opened, and > nonprofit candidates are badly needed - so that is an ongoing task of this > group to find senior nonprofit people and encourage them to get involved > with ICANN. > > In short, we have a lot of real work to do. > > Maria > > On 13 January 2012 05:19, Sarah El Ebiary <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I'm not sure how it is in Kenya, but doesn't the head of the Red Cross in >> the USA make an unconscionably high salary? I read it was upwards of half a >> million US dollars per year. When I read that, I vowed to be more careful >> about donating to disaster relief fundraisers and all charities that cannot >> be monitored or accountable penny for penny. >> >> Sometimes I feel like it's a huge scam. >> Haiti. Katrina. ASPCA. Etc. >> >> Unless my donations are going from my hand (or perhaps from a close >> friend or another family member's hand on the ground) directly to the >> mouths of the needy, then tragedies of waste such as this can certainly be >> avoided. >> >> Too bad... >> >> On Jan 12, 2012 8:24 PM, "Alex Gakuru" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:37 AM, warigia bowman <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Yes, except the cu... >> >> >> Yeah right! But be sure not to tarnish the "very reputable organisation" >> on a blog post. DO NOT include adverse links to such a post - because if >> you do? And SOPA/PIPA pass, your entire blog site could be pulled down >> after they complain to the "relevant online Copyright/IP Authorities." So >> much free speech to expose basic human rights (food, clothes and shelter) >> injustices going forward, right? >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Sarah El Ebiary < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Popul... >> >> >> >>> >> >>> This is crazy. Why do you think this happened? >> >> My guess is as good as anyone's. Maybe the local initiative's success >> threatened their foodchain? Global fundraising system? Hence KILL! future >> prospects of all such local initiatives likes of: (re: >> http://www.the-star.co.ke/national/national/34256-kenyans4kenyans-kitty-raises-over-sh81million) ? That disrupt precious dollars from out there from percolating through >> an otherwise "properly established system"? Collected putting up an >> 'angelic' face as a tool to demand special protections by *everyone* >> (including on icann policies)? To put brakes on emergent, terrible, >> "Kenyans4Kenyans" model that diminishes their longstanding, global >> established brand as "the only ones who truly care" impression? Maybe the >> starving do not live at the NGO's "politically correct" dry Northern Kenya >> areas? Or releasing the food to the starving would have meant the problem >> is REALLY getting solved therefore Kenyan could stop giving more food, >> more money? I have no idea what on earth motivated them to do such inhuman >> acts, but you bet we're pissed off with Red Cross! >> >> Today is among the worst days for *anyone* to dare shower Red Cross with >> traditional praises over here. >> >> > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger