On 2/8/12, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear Milton, > > Not sure who were addressing. You quote McTim, but I think that I was the > one who wrote the line you commented on. > > On 8 Feb 2012, at 14:10, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> Tell me: what procedures, standards, accountability arrangements, etc. >> ensure that the IO only acts on behalf of "small communities, especially >> indigenous and poor communities who find an application does harm to their >> community?" >> >> It is amateurish politics > > By amateur do you mean those who love politics as opposed to the > professionals who get paid to do it? > Or are you just starting out with a little bit of a rhetorical flourish to > pull the respondent off guard? > >> to think that you can give powers to an entity based on nothing more than >> the hope that that power will only be used in ways that you think it ought >> to be used. And please, think for just a few moments about how many other >> people there are out there, with different values, who hope it will be >> used in ways that _they_ hope for. > > I believe this would be adhered to for several reasons: > > 1. that is the basis on which these community interest objections can be > filed as documented in the guidebook and in the policy that guides the > guidebook. > 2. if the IO attacks on a different basis, it can be thrown out as a > frivolous objection just as any other group's can, as documented in the > guidebook > 3 this is not happening in a dark room, but in an environment where the > entire community, including you, can read the objections, watch the process > and create incredible political (both amateur and professional) hardship for > the IO who goes astray. In fact in a case where an Objection is done > inappropriately and not thrown out a frivolous, a group such as the NCSG can > offer to add content and support the the applicant response. > > But you do bring up a good point. We have not seen the written guidance for > the IO yet, I think the "guidance" is all in the guidebook. It seems pretty straightforward and IMHO, quite limited in what the IO can or cannot object to. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel