Robin, Thanks for the clarification and the sense of direction the NCSG needs to take. It is interesting that Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC. I think we need to engage on substantive ideas on how to go forward. The UN+9/10 may just be a acceptable outcome down the road... we just don't know. It would be interesting to dig into the Portugal proposal. Alain On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I have to disagree, Adam. We need the community to engage in this issue > very much. This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to > try to reach a compromise. If it is "too late" for the community to > engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game. I don't believe > the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of > AC/IOC's late request. > > Robin > > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote: > > > Alain, hi. > > > > Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental > > change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste > > our time on it. > > > > Best, > > > > Adam > > > > Adam Peake > > GLOCOM Tokyo > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Dear NCSG Colleagues, > >> > >> FYI > >> > >> Alain > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard <[log in to unmask]> > >> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM > >> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection > >> To: Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" > >> <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >> > >> Alain, > >> > >> Merci de votre proposition. > >> > >> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name > into a > >> gTLD. > >> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet. > >> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc. > >> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential > internet > >> brands of the NGOs they represent. > >> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it > >> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our > case > >> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD). > >> > >> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org or > .org.country > >> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the > >> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the > country > >> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1 > 2012. > >> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the > same > >> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active. > >> > >> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand > >> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e. > >> Check for .org existence, check if own by NGO). > >> > >> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's > suggestion. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> JL > >> > >> be green – read on the screen > >> -- > >> Jean-Louis Écochard > >> Vice President and Chief Information Officer > >> > >> The Nature Conservancy > >> New Zealand Office > >> 126D Apotu Road, RD1 > >> Whangarei 0185 > >> New Zealand > >> > >> [log in to unmask] > >> +1.703.212.3999 (New Zealand Office US dial) > >> +64.9.974.8195 (New Zealand Office) > >> +1.703.841.5342 (Arlington World Office Phone) > >> +1.703.273.0713 (Arlington World Office Fax) > >> +1.703.841.5304 (Executive Assistant, Jennifer Manaloto) > >> > >> Skype jecochard > >> IM (MSN) [log in to unmask], (Yahoo & AIM) [log in to unmask] > >> Facebook jecochard > >> Twitter @jecochard > >> LinkedIn http://nz.linkedin.com/in/jecochard > >> > >> The Nature Conservancy www.nature.org > >> NetHope www.nethope.org > >> Conservation Commons www.conservationcommons.org > >> > >> > >> "An individual without information can't take responsibility. An > individual > >> with information can't help but take responsibility." > >> - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines > Group > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Alain Berranger > >> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > >> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400 > >> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > >> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection > >> > >> Dear NPOC members: > >> > >> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult > you > >> on an important issue: > >> > >> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption > (some of > >> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO > this > >> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future > NPOC > >> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and > >> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the > >> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a > >> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria > to > >> define who or who does not qualify: > >> > >> Proposition: > >> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally > in > >> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the > >> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members." > >> > >> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by > >> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Alain Berranger > >> -- > >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, > >> http://www.ceci.ca< > http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> > >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > >> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca> > >> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, > >> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org> > >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, > >> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org> > >> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > >> Skype: alain.berranger > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA > >> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca > >> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, > www.schulich.yorku.ca > >> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org > >> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org > >> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ > >> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 > >> Skype: alain.berranger > >> > > > -- Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 Skype: alain.berranger