Alain, I am not sure Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC's. Portugal's is quite detailed and treats separately the actual case of IOC and RC, and the proposal to embed in the rules the treatment of these cases based on the characteristics of well defined types of organizations instead of going on a case by case basis.
I will look for the transcript.
--c.a.
On 03/13/2012 02:06 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
Robin,
Thanks for the clarification and the sense of direction the NCSG needs to
take. It is interesting that Portugal made the same proposal as NPOC. I
think we need to engage on substantive ideas on how to go forward. The
UN+9/10 may just be a acceptable outcome down the road... we just don't
know. It would be interesting to dig into the Portugal proposal.
Alain
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robin Gross<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to disagree, Adam. We need the community to engage in this issue
very much. This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to
try to reach a compromise. If it is "too late" for the community to
engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game. I don't believe
the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of
AC/IOC's late request.
Robin
On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
Alain, hi.into a
Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental
change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste
our time on it.
Best,
Adam
Adam Peake
GLOCOM Tokyo
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger
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Dear NCSG Colleagues,
FYI
Alain
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From: Jean-Louis Ecochard<[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
To: Alain Berranger<alain.berranger@gmail.com>, "[log in to unmask]"
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Alain,
Merci de votre proposition.
One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name
internetgTLD.
This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet.
We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc.
cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential
casebrands of the NGOs they represent.
I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it
disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our
.org.countryof nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD).
Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org or
countrydomain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the
public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
2012.where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1
sameThis means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the
suggestion.as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active.
This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand
presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e.
Check for .org existence, check if own by NGO).
I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's
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From: Alain Berranger
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400
To:<[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection
Dear NPOC members:
Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult
(some ofon an important issue:
Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption
thisus call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO
NPOCmorning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future
tomembers, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and
supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the
generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a
precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria
indefine who or who does not qualify:
Proposition:
Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally
http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the
country where its Headquarters are located, and its members."
Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by
Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time.
Best regards,
Alain Berranger
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Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
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interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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Skype: alain.berranger