Robin is right. --c.a. sent from a dumbphone On 12/03/2012, at 17:50, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I have to disagree, Adam. We need the community to engage in this issue very much. This proposal is a not a final text, but a starting point to try to reach a compromise. If it is "too late" for the community to engage, it is because the RC/IOC came so late in the game. I don't believe the bottom-up policy development process should be shoved aside because of AC/IOC's late request. > > Robin > > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Adam Peake wrote: > >> Alain, hi. >> >> Suggest it's a little late to be recommending such a fundamental >> change to the applicant proces. Not going to fly. So let's not waste >> our time on it. >> >> Best, >> >> Adam >> >> Adam Peake >> GLOCOM Tokyo >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Alain Berranger >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> Dear NCSG Colleagues, >>> >>> FYI >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard <[log in to unmask]> >>> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection >>> To: Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" >>> <[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> >>> Alain, >>> >>> Merci de votre proposition. >>> >>> One of the prime concern is the conversion of a known NGO domain name into a >>> gTLD. >>> This is because a domain name is an NGO brand on the internet. >>> We also know that words like relief, cancer, heart, peace, nature, etc. >>> cannot receive trademark protection yet they represent essential internet >>> brands of the NGOs they represent. >>> I believe ANY NGO with a strong internet brand presence would find it >>> disastrous to see their domain name converted into a gTLD (e.g. In our case >>> of nature.org seeing a .nature gTLD). >>> >>> Henceforth I recommend we propose protection of any .org or .org.country >>> domain name in active use by "Any organization operating globally in the >>> public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the country >>> where its Headquarters are located, and its members." as of January 1 2012. >>> This means that ICANN would prohibit the creation of a gTLD that is the same >>> as a domain name of an NGO in use 1/1/12 and active. >>> >>> This ensures protection of the capital invested by NGOs on their brand >>> presence without making it too complicated for ICANN to administer (I.e. >>> Check for .org existence, check if own by NGO). >>> >>> I welcome thoughts and discussions on this extension of Alain's suggestion. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> JL >>> >>> be green – read on the screen >>> -- >>> Jean-Louis Écochard >>> Vice President and Chief Information Officer >>> >>> The Nature Conservancy >>> New Zealand Office >>> 126D Apotu Road, RD1 >>> Whangarei 0185 >>> New Zealand >>> >>> [log in to unmask] >>> +1.703.212.3999 (New Zealand Office US dial) >>> +64.9.974.8195 (New Zealand Office) >>> +1.703.841.5342 (Arlington World Office Phone) >>> +1.703.273.0713 (Arlington World Office Fax) >>> +1.703.841.5304 (Executive Assistant, Jennifer Manaloto) >>> >>> Skype jecochard >>> IM (MSN) [log in to unmask], (Yahoo & AIM) [log in to unmask] >>> Facebook jecochard >>> Twitter @jecochard >>> LinkedIn http://nz.linkedin.com/in/jecochard >>> >>> The Nature Conservancy www.nature.org >>> NetHope www.nethope.org >>> Conservation Commons www.conservationcommons.org >>> >>> >>> "An individual without information can't take responsibility. An individual >>> with information can't help but take responsibility." >>> - Jan Carlzon, former President and CEO of the Scandinavian Airlines Group >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Alain Berranger >>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:06:11 -0400 >>> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>> Subject: [npoc-voice] NPOC Proposal for IOC-RC protection >>> >>> Dear NPOC members: >>> >>> Greetings from San José. As Acting Vice Chair, I would like to consult you >>> on an important issue: >>> >>> Context: Given the tension here on the IOC and Red Cross exemption (some of >>> us call it protection) and the Drafting Committee Chair report to GNSO this >>> morning - we find it wise, for the benefit of our current and future NPOC >>> members, as well as the ICANN Community at large, that NPOC promotes and >>> supports a) the proposal from the WG and b), in a broader manner, the >>> generic extension of this protection based on avoiding the setting of a >>> precedent, and based on objective and independantly verifiable criteria to >>> define who or who does not qualify: >>> >>> Proposition: >>> Would receive new gTLD protection: "Any organization operating globally in >>> the public interest and enjoying International Legal Personality in the >>> country where its Headquarters are located, and its members." >>> >>> Thank you for your attention to this important matter. Please respond by >>> Tuesday 13 March 17:00 San José time. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Alain Berranger >>> -- >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, >>> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/> >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca> >>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>> www.gkpfoundation.org<http://www.gkpfoundation.org> >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, >>> www.chasquinet.org<http://www.chasquinet.org> >>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>> Skype: alain.berranger >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca >>> Trustee, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org >>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>> interim Membership Committee Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>> Skype: alain.berranger >>> >>