And I've volunteered to send a request to the Council, to seek clarification as to what the expected role/scope of this group is now, in light of the recent actions by the GNSO and the Board, by way of motion and resolutions, respectively. The IOC-RC Drafting Team does not seem to be unified in its view on this; some want to push forward, others support getting clarification from the GNSO Council. One potential complication is timing, especially for second level protections - even if a PDP results from our motion that the Council just passed, it may not be completed in time (i.e. before delegation of the first new gTLD into the root). This is one reason that some are saying the group should go ahead with its work, even while awaiting guidance from the Council. By way of reminder: the DT is not a formal working group and hence does not have a formal, written charter. It was formed by the Council in Dakar (Oct 2011), to respond to the GAC request for additional protections for the IOC & RC. The GAC letter currently remains unanswered by the GNSO, hence is another basis for saying that the DT should move ahead with its work in the meantime. Link to the GNSO motion: http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#201204 Link to the Board's resolutions, one regarding a request to staff and the GNSO for information on second level protections, the other regarding the Board's decision not to make any further changes to the AGB at this time: http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-new-gtld-10apr12-en.htm Cheers Mary Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: [log in to unmask]: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> To:<[log in to unmask]> Date: 4/18/2012 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group Hi, I have joined the call with Mary. I asked the question and was told that this is something that is up to the g-Council. While I do not really want to add another WG to my list, until this one is closed, I am volunteering to take on the spot vacated by KK (not that I have anywhere near his knowledge) as long as no one objects. avri On 18 Apr 2012, at 12:46, Robin Gross wrote: > Yes, I agree that this group must be disbanded. It has become a runaway train and the board has already rejected its recommendations. Do we need to propose a motion in the GNSO to end the group? > > Thanks, > Robin > > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote: > >> Thanks Avri - I won't be attending either this call. Wolfgang is also representing NCSG in this group but I am equally baffled as to why this group continues to meet and discuss things that will end up becoming policy. I think this needs to be challenged somehow! >> >> KK >> >> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis, >> >> Senior Lecturer, >> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses >> Director of LLM Information Technology and Telecommunications Law >> University of Strathclyde, >> The Law School, >> Graham Hills building, >> 50 George Street, Glasgow G1 1BA >> UK >> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306 >> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765 >> Selected publications: http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038 >> Website: www.komaitis.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >> Sent: Τετάρτη, 18 Απριλίου 2012 12:37 μμ >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group >> >> Hi, >> >> I assume KK is no attending as well given his hew role in life. >> >> Who else from NCSG has been attending. Will we have a voice at this meeting? >> >> And now that there is an issues report request in the works, why is this group still meeting? >> >> avri >> >> On 17 Apr 2012, at 23:56, Joy Liddicoat wrote: >> >>> Hi - FYI, but note that I am unable to make this call. >>> Kind regards >>> Joy >>> >>> >>> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine >>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 3:59 a.m. >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Cc: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group >>> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> The next call for the GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion groupis scheduled on Wednesday 18 April 2012 at 1800 UTC. >>> >>> 11:00 PDT, 14:00 EDT, 19:00 London, 20:00 CET >>> >>> Please be aware that some countries have now moved to Daylight Saving time, not hesitate to follow the link below if you have any doubts: >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IOCRC&iso=20120418T18&ah=1 >>> >>> >>> The dial-in details are below. 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